*Yabby – its dogma like yours which the original article I posted is trying to over come. You accept status quo as the norm!*

No dogma lol, I simply accept nature and I accept that other species
should be considered too, not just humans. Without biodiversity,
you won't have humanity. That is basic biology.

* We can easily make 100bil sustainable!*

Ah dreams, people are full of them. I am a realist. Show me 6 billion
people living sustainbly first, before you get carried away.

Nope, its not just about energy. You wipe your butt, you use
trees to do it. So they wipe out Orang Utans and their environment,
so that you can wipe your butt. Why should they not have a life
on this planet too? Why are you just focussed on humans?

So my point is simple. Before you get carried away with other
planets, unlimited energy and 100 billion or 1 trillion, show
me that 6 billion can actually live sustainably.

Perhaps your bedroom activities should focus on the pleasures,
not the babies. As it is, we have enough of them starving, which
we still cannot feed.

Dreams are all very well, but some sense of reality is not a bad
idea either.

Yabby! You are spot on! The clarity you speak, is like the nose on my face.

Your post is absolutely brilliant!

Easytimes! A pest! I noticed some pests on this planet, every-where I look in fact. How would you describe it? The sea we take for granted, is a dumping ground, rain forests for which our medicines comes from is being cut just to fill your dreams! and i can go on,on,on.

If we all live in a balance, tell? what can go wrong.

You are way off the map, but nice try.

But hey! Good to see you back.

EVO

I gotta ask this one question

the "Elephant in the Room"

I assume that is a Dead Elephant?

Geeze... whats on the aganda next week... hair care tips for Rapunzel?

The notion of eternal life is never going to happen

the idea we could live longer is a process of which may be achieved but will still be defined on a scale of diminishing returns

Speaking personally, I full expect to expire in a massive heart attack (its in my genes - unless I get whacked by a truck etc before..)

I will be unprepared and disorganised for the event but it will happen and I think that is a good way to go, far better than worrying about alternative hows and whens or slowly being reduced to a vegetative state, dying braincell by braincell but the heart beating on regardless or counting down the days of a 6 month timeline from a doctor.

Col mate you have a lot to learn about how science is progressing.

Yabby Evo2 are of the same pedigree. Would the 2 of you please explain what you mean by “Sustainable” such ambiguous words are very unhelpful. Sustainable could mean any manner of things.

What are these babies you speak of that we can not feed? If you are talking about Africa you are mistaken my friend. The reason for the starvation in Africa is political not due to lack of available resources. The EU actually pays farmers not to produce so as to keep prices at a certain level.

It seems some people don’t understand why I call this post “The elephant in the room”? Death by “natural causes” is the biggest killer of people in Australia today. Thousands would have died today due to “natural causes” and what are we doing about it? Practically nothing! Yet ironically a bit over 200 die in a bush fire and we have a day of national morning and hundreds of millions of dollars thrown at the problem! Although it is very sad those people dying in the bushfire we as community need to get our priorities right and frankly hundreds of millions spent on medical research to help fight the grim reaper would save many more lives then the same amount spent on bushfires.

But alas when have you ever known humans to use common sense or to see the big picture? Its right there in front of you! Its so obvious! It’s the elephant in the room which is always ignored! Who knows tomorrow 3 people might die in a car crash and millions will be spent investigating and making the road/car safer. Yet thousands more will die of natural causes and what will be done about that? Nothing!

Easytimes! You are more closer than you think! I enjoy your posts emencely and the fact that you are haft right, concludes that sustainabiltity is for the small majority that is for those who can think. Balance is the key! Then your thoughts are valid.

Drone development only applies to the space front-tear, not for the basic run of the mill! This is our/your only base, and my only concerns are with a large proportion of humans, we may not reach our target.

EVO

Easy Times, you are seemingly not silly, so would know the definition
of sustainability, so I don't need to underline it for you. Unless
of course you have a point to make, which I suspect. So make your
point.

*The reason for the starvation in Africa is political not due to lack of available resources*

Ah but politics is a human problem. If humans are clearly too
stupid to solve a polical problem, what this highlights is the
difference in our thinking. You dream on about human potential,
I as a skeptic, will remind you of the law of unintended consequences
and how these things play into your dreams. Reality does not go
away, when you close your eyes and wish it would. So I see humans
for what they are.

*Thousands would have died today due to “natural causes” and what are we doing about it? Practically nothing! *

Rubbish. Cancer, heart attacks, various diseases, all natural
causes. We spend a fortune on trying to understand and cure them.

But the fact remains, only so many can live sustainably on this
planet at once, IMHO other species have a right to some of this
planet too, not just humans.

If you have had 70 years to do your thing and still not achieved
it, perhaps you just might be a genetic dud, so let some other
dna combination have a go.

For after all, it is little more then good luck, that you are here
and aware in the first place. If your mum and dad had had a cup of
tea or whatever before making you, chances are pretty high that
some other of the billions of sperms would have won the race to
the egg and you would not be here.

So count your good fortune and enjoy every day!