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The Elephant in the Room

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EasyTimes I agree with you!
It is a different story if we can not avoid the death.
No I do not like to die and even I do not like to think that I will die!
I have so many dreams, so rich program for the rest of my life, which does not give me any chanche for death!
I think my first, little plan of my life will be ready at least after 937 years! This is only the begin!
Ssss! leave the death sleeping!
The instict for life is the strongest enstic and the driver of the evolution and human progress!
EasyTimes sent me the magic spell to win the death!
I COULD ACCEPT THE DEATH ONLY IF I HAD TO SAVE THE LIFES FROM MY CHILDREN !
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Friday, 20 February 2009 11:42:19 PM
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EasyTimes – You must have a lot of faith in the scientific community if you really think they will be able to overcome the small hurdle of “the conservation of matter”: a fundamental law of this physical universe.

Whilst you prefer not to think about this topic through “big picture” lenses, the fact remains that allowing everlasting life for a reproducing organism is unwise and ultimately unsustainable in a universe of finite matter.

I also have to strongly contest your view of “let's cross one bridge at a time”. We should think carefully about our actions and what their consequences will be (especially since one of those bridges that we will be required to overcome is a fundamental law of physics).

Perhaps I don't need to talk in “big picture” terms. Let's take a shorter-term view: you mentioned that Earth could habitate 100 million people... what happens when we reach that figure? Do we ban reproduction? Do we take the joy of raising a family out of the experience of being human?

I think we just have to accept the fact that to experience one type of joy (raising children) we have to lose another (time with loved ones on this earth); that to allow way for the next generation of innovators and creative genius' we must, sadly, part with the old generation; and that to appreciate life, we must accept death.
Posted by jaranet, Saturday, 21 February 2009 12:19:17 AM
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*Sorry, 100 billion
Posted by jaranet, Saturday, 21 February 2009 12:39:18 AM
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jaranet
If you want to die DO IT! but do not try to convince us that we must die!
You wrote that we can not win the death because it will violate “the conservation of matter”: a fundamental law of this physical universe.
REALY?
Can you explain why we do not violate this law if we live 100 years but we violate it if we live 10.000 years or even more?
OK, we will be many and we will have a little bit problem with space and food BUT THERE ARE BILLIONS OF GALAXIES AND STARS AND PLANETS! Of cause we can control the births,for example one child for each billion of years!
If we do not die we will have the time to work on the transformation of humans to energy systems and reverse!
EasyTimes
I want one day to go a tour to the ...middle of the son, to test its heat and after direct to the ...black holes!
I do not like to be prisoner from the earth, I want to travel to the universe and I need plenty of time.
Life without adventure is very bowring.
But do you know anything about the VIAGRA for a 100.000.000.000.000 years old man?
Only an innocent question.
YES EasyTimes, IT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 21 February 2009 8:25:51 AM
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Jaranet! is 100% correct.

Now just think about the waiting for the likes of hospital, dental , standing in cues and so on, a 100 billion! I wonder what it would be like then? by some peoples thinking, its all fine with no consequences.

Yeah right!

I saw a picture once with such a scenario and some of you may of seen it. Its where all the cites are in ruin, and the people are shoulder by shoulder and razing there hands towards god and asking why!

Humans are killing everything that life its self needs to live! and that's a fact. How would such a future economy work? There is 300 hundred million now that don't live like we do and there all look for a place to run to, and guess what continent they have their eyes on!

Thats right Australia! cause we still are in a sustainable head count.

Smaller and smarter!

That's the way of the future.

EV
Posted by EVO2, Saturday, 21 February 2009 8:34:32 AM
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The fountain of youth - now there's an original fantasy!

Next please.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 21 February 2009 8:58:34 AM
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