Dear Belly,

What you say makes a lot of sense.

I've still got a lot to learn about life,
about people, about so many things.

All I can do, is, as you point out, hope
that things will improve for us all - if
we're prepared to work at it. But again
as you point out - it's going to take
people willing to be helped, and willing to
work as well.

How to get them to want to work, is going to
be a problem that I don't think is going to
be easy to solve. It may take generations
before it's achieved.

Foxy

Its quite difficult to try to short cut the proposal to State Government for Aboriginal People.
Now pls dont take this the wrong way but as you made no comment - nor asked any questions do I take it your not really interested.?
Its quite ok if you not.
Just dont want to try to compress 350of it each time for nothing.

I think that Foxy treated the idiotic and paternalistic 'proposal' from PALE&IF quite correctly by ignoring it, as did its Aboriginal objects and the rest of us.

No more oxygen from me on this one.

Belly, it is clear to me that you are indeed a good, well-intentioned individual.

Foxy, I'm sorry, but you are almost as patronising and paternalistic as PALE ("How to get them to want to work"). The reason many Aboriginal people are the way they are is because of such attitudes. You should (both) watch the film "The Rabbit Proof Fence", and "Bar-b-q-area" and learn from them.

We have much to atone for without insulting these people further with bizarre, unworkable, unfunded "proposals" - besides which no member of parliament would take such a document seriously. Politicians, in my experience, expect proposals to be spelled correctly (just for starters), and professionally presented, and they also expect them to be sustainable (that is, able to fund themselves in the shortest period of time possible). They are only interested in matters that get them voted back in.

CJ Morgan - I think I might consider joining you now that this thread has been compromised by self-serving interests (and they know who they are) too.

Nicky

Dear PALE&IF,

I'm sorry that I wasn't able to respond to you earlier,
I had family problems to deal with.

No, you're right. I can't help you any further.
Although I wish you all the best.

Dear Nicky,

I've seen the film, "Rabbit Proof Fence," several
times actually.

And I've also read, "Why Weren't We Told?" by historian
Henry Reynolds. Have you?

Throwing words around like, "Patronising" is very easy
to do, however you don't know me at all to be able to
make that judgement.

Morgan

We don’t care what you think. As the Malaysian Prime Minister liked it +the Minister of Agriculture as well that makes you look pretty darn stupid .
The QLD Minister for Aboriginal Affairs also liked it and offered some funding! As did: Peter Beattie...
Irrespective we don’t have to explain anything to you and we are sure you could never follow what I just ran past Foxy anyway.
HOWEVER as this thread was about helping Aboriginal People and we are ‘sincere’ in our efforts to do something- I was happy to think others like Foxy were interested. The truth is we also need sincere people to support it. I had hoped Foxy might be interested.

Now even IF we can`t get all the States to agree to support this project and least we tried. Which is far more than YOU have ever done.

It was put together to also divert the cruel live export trade to with chilled and provide an opportunity to regional and aboriginal to own their own companies.


If you knew anything about Global Trade you would know that Halal Vegetables Cosmetics Meats are a 3to 4 trillion dollars industry and growing fast.

We can either open ur country towns again with jobs and schools and train our people or we send all our products in raw materials.

The links we provided Foxy are OUR Own projects we put on the table.

We have been working on this for five years now.

It looks like brains however only belong to other countries!

Its pretty clear Yabby was spot on in his observation that you Nicky are are just Jealous of RSPCA QLD AFIC and PALEs efforts to divert live exports while creating jobs for aboriginal people.

Yes Foxy its a joint proposal from RSPCA QLD AFIC and PALE which was ignored by Animals Australia- whom Nicky will tell yous she supports.
The difference is our RSPCA QLD CEO like PALE supports 'everybody' working to help animals.

We also have engaged Australias first aboriginal inspectors.

We have never come experienced such nasty !