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An Aboriginal Nation state

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Runner,

Wrong country. In SA you don't get any of the coloured people believing that. (yet)

You are thinking of Zimbabwe.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 29 January 2009 2:51:44 PM
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Foxy I am not picking on AS Col has his own style, one I rarely agree with.
Free speech? it never did exist, not truly, some things we just can not say here.
I could tell of bad behavior of some Greek youths from years ago, screaming insults at Australian women, not however Representative, not the way most would behave.
I am never going to support views that are IMO wrong, just to be nice.
I give no value to AS trying to use false figures to find fault with my country men.
My whole life has been dedicated to the view we are equals all humans.
education and opportunity is the only difference.
I can not name the minority from a minority who is educated to hate, but I do have concerns.
We AS and I clash often, we are from different sides of the left, I blame extremes for stopping true reform, for chasing dreams I think of as nightmares.
And for isolating many workers from the ALP.
I do not dislike AS or Greeks, in fact I still search each country town for the best food you can buy , anywhere a Greek café.
And served by friendly happy great people who make you feel at home.
I love our country too, we always need improvements but after all why stay if its that bad AS?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 29 January 2009 3:17:20 PM
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In the 2006 census, 6.3 million or 32% of respondents identified as "English"

English Australians are Australians of English descent, the largest ethnic group in Australia after "Australian" (which contains an unknown number of English Australians). In the 2006 census, 6.3 million or 32% of respondents identified as "English" or a combination including English, such as English-Australian[3]. The census also documented 860,000 residents of Australia as being born in England.[4] Most of them are descendants of English settlers who arrived during the colonial era and the Big Brother Movement.
Posted by ASymeonakis, Thursday, 29 January 2009 3:48:07 PM
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Shadow Minister

'Wrong country. In SA you don't get any of the coloured people believing that. (yet)'

The Sth Africans I have spoken to (white and non white) must be making up porkies about the tribal racism being prevalent in South Africa now. I must rebuke them for misreading their experiences.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 29 January 2009 4:04:23 PM
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ASymeonakis,
I understand what you shouted and said but it is clear you do not understand Australians.

Like most others, I could not care less where people come from or what colour their skin is, religion or eye shape. If they want to make a home here for themselves and their kids that if fine. Most migrants I have spoken to have said 'Australia is like the Garden of Eden compared to my old country'. Many people, including Greeks, have done very well by coming here, willingness and hard work is the key.

If you think you can get all the first generation non-anglo migrants to vote en-block and turn our system on its head you are welcome to try. You will fail because they know its a pretty good place.

Col You said "Multiculturalism is just a stepping stone along the path of assimilation"

Firstly, I say MC is a misnomer, we are and never have been Multicultural. From the first fleet we have been multiracial but our dominant culture was and is based on Britain. Our Governance, laws, police, education, military, finace system, social standards are all based on British heritage and all that come are expected to abide by our laws and social standards. I cannot see any one culture that can slot into Australia without some cultural change.
So the most that can be said is that we are partly multicultural. We allow some cultural practises of differing groups but not all.

The ideology of multicuralism is a handicap to integration, simply because it divides people into ethnic groups and emphasises the ethnicity of where they come from. It encourages some alien practices to be passed from generation to generation. Forced marriages and FGM are examples and most of those Croats and Serbs that fight at sport events, and the Lebanese muslim youths that caused the problems at Cronulla, were born here. It is handed down.

The sooner we stop using the MC term the better.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 29 January 2009 5:06:46 PM
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We will always have a problem with Australia / Invasion Day until we get a UN mediated Treaty with our Aboriginal People .

Many white Australians talk Australia Day but know it is Invasion or Holocaust Day for them .

It must include Land, Sea and Water Rights on a just basis and scale .

There must be a solution that is fair and just and give Black Australians fair recompense for the theft or seizure of their land .

WA Liberal Premier Colin Barnett with his divisions of waiting bulldozers has given Aboriginal Groups in Broome just 3 months to work out a "handover deal " for the beautifull and pristine James Price Point just north of Broome .

We white fellas are about to stuff up more of the best of Australia .
Posted by kartiya jim, Thursday, 29 January 2009 5:57:14 PM
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