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An Aboriginal Nation state

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Actually Antonios...that's not quite true. (half the population)

But your attack raises the obvious question...

Why would Anglo's allow Southern European migrants to enter this country if ONE DAY (like today) they (you) start telling us we no longer have a SAY about where the country goes or what it remembers?

I'd say.. pull your boof head IN.. and just remember that we (ANGLOS) allowed.. repeat ALLOWED you mob to come here.. but remember this also.. we did NOT allow you to come here to you can spit in our faces!

You certainly prove one thing though..that allowing non core migrant racial stock into the country results in dills like you declaring that Australia is now under 'NEW management'.....right?

Well.. don't be surprised if there is a bit of a 'Cronulla like' reaction to that idea if it is pushed too hard.

You are (like all who think like you) most welcome to get back on the plane or boat which brought you here and stay out of the country, where you can yell and scream and rant and rave to your OWN ethnic cousins about what they should and should not remember or do or not do. (because it appears you have not yet embraced the idea of 'Australian' identity)
SIMPLE.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:24:00 PM
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Poor Antonios, all you did was ask, 'What about the
non-Anglo population that currently makes up Australia
in regards to Australia Day?"

And you got such a nasty reaction.

It really bothers me because such intense vilification
happened in the past, and it seems that some are more
that prepared to inflict it again. This tells me that
there is a serious problem,
something unreconciled and unresolved
in some people's psyche.

We've seen it all before historically, when the DP's
(Displaced Persons) arrived after World War 2, then the
post war European migrants, then the Vietnamese refugees,
and so on. The implication is that somehow its OK to
vilify people, and that those like yourself, whose English
they don't understand are whingers. They even suggest that
you should go back to where you came from.

Ignore them Antonios. Don't react.
They are the ones with a serious problem.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 1:37:30 PM
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Speaking personally, I do accept Antonios Symeonakis limited comprehension of English and do apply wide latitude to it, as I have observed most other posters do.

However, what I do not give latitude to is when someone makes a wholly unreasonable claim to represent half the population of Australia, despite such claims being patently absurd.

So Foxy your comment:
“Ignore them Antonios. Don't react.
They are the ones with a serious problem.”

Is seriously out of line.

I suggest you leave playing mother hen back in the chook house, there is no place here for such sentimentality.

Maybe Antonios can respond directly to the quite reasonable challenges to his outrageous assertions, like a man, rather than hide behind the proffered wing feathers, in the style of a woosie.
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 2:09:48 PM
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AS give it a break mate!
The thread was started to get people talking about some Aboriginals not wanting to have an Australia day.
You use figures that are clearly untrue to push your wagon.
While we do have descendants of migrants from every country in the world we are not half migrants.
My family has people who's roots are from most of Europe, none would not call themselves Australian.
I just do not understand what you want from this country?
Truly I am baffled by your constant complaints about us, yes you are clearly a worker and a unionist ,but my young days as Socialist saw me claim we are all equal.
Australia day is for every one, yes you too, if you do not want to celebrate it no complaints from me, but go easy on us mate you must have liked us once, you came to live with us.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 2:46:43 PM
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Antonios,
Foxy is offering sound advice, you are trying to discuss with individuals who don't want to discuss only convert to their limited (brutish)view of the world.

Davidf,
As I said in my first post the question shows an incredible ignorance of the fact that the aboriginals aren't one single nation/clan “they are many and from all the continent they come”.(excuse me altering the ad.)
To now suggest shoving then all these different groups into existing aboriginal groups’ territories is nothing short of insane and absurdly unworkable. Their cultures, ability to survive off the land would be compromised.

I think the question seems typical of the ignorance of the whites else where. Create a problem then suggest various forms of Apartheid (Herzog reference) to wash their hands of it.

Foxy and others
On TV there was doco about Okinawan Japanese an how in their traditional environment they are one of the longest living/healthiest groups in the world 100+year are common. The compared that to 2nd generation Okinawans living on 1st world diets they have the most modern world disease prone Japanese, the most obese, diabetes, high blood pressure etc. The scientist concluded that their baby boomers are likely to be the last generation that can expect not to out live their children. He also concluded that their traditional diet had evolved genes that were set to cope with major food (caloric) fluctuations/deprivations droughts and other natural catastophies.

I wonder if this gene setting would help to explain similar susceptibility in aborigines?

I have photos taken of tribal and station aboriginals around 1900s and have researched as best I can on other photographic sources (net museums etc) of the time and I’ve yet to see pictures of obese aborigines. Yet there are photos of fat/obese whites. This is not absolute proof I think it’s prima facie what do you think ?
Posted by examinator, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 3:04:04 PM
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Part one

Col Rouge, Austin Powerless, BOAZ_David, Belly, runner.
I understand you but I disagree with you.
1.I do not hate Australia as you think, but I feel sory for you because you avoid to see the Australian reality, because you afraid to open your eyes and see the Australian reality, because you reject the Australian reality and with your behave you damaged the Australia, you create problems to Australia ALTHOUGT, I AM SURE, YOU LOVE THE AUSTRALIA VERY MUCH!.
Instead to hate, or threaten me I ask to you to listem me, to try to understand what I want to tell you, I know that my english are not good but PLEASE try to understand me, may be then you will agree with me.
2. I understand you, it is your love for Australia, it is your worries for the future of Australia, it is the huge changes in Australia in so sort time. About 60-70 years before all non Anglo-SaxonS blocked to become Australian citizens, and last years Australia is full from non anglo-saxon citizens, and now you are going to lose your Queen and even worst now you have some bastards like ASymeonakis who always asks for more and more non anglo-saxon rights, for migrants rights, for... for..
I understand you, if the bastard non anglo-saxon Australians wants, what they want now, what will hapen tomorrow when they will be much more and you will be much less, and they will be much more because every year come many, many thousands from them and even worst because they make much more children. "my god, how many children have each family! are they women or rabit?"
I UNDERSTAND YOUR WORRIES OK?
NOW LISTEN TO ME!

Antonios Symeonakis
An other Australian
CONTINUE
Posted by ASymeonakis, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 5:31:12 PM
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