C J Morgan in his first post was right.
The thread was never about Aboriginal self government, it was an attempt to get people to say negative things about Aboriginals.
Now for AS, I too Foxy, while not in the way Col Rouge did, differed with AS, I always will.
Proudly I am from the left, not the extremist left.
Forget the spelling, although at times it is perfect others not so ,it is the content I differ with.
Why do we Australians so very often Cringe when people stand up for our country?
Why do we so very often hear those who find fault but not those who defend our country?
Australia in my view is a multi cultural country, mostly a very open one.
Yes we fear minority's from within minority's who are seemingly a problem.
But Greeks are numerous in this country, built some of it, seem to be great migrants.
Find me one post.
One single post.
From AS that did not complain about Australia.
Find me one post that does not tell of a home amung the extreme left, far far left for AS.
I am sure he is not a bad person but while not in favor of American style jingoism surely we can defend our country>?
The thread would have died without your input AS may I ask that you not shout?
It is the content of your words not the noise level that I here.

Davidf,
Thank you for the information about the inuit territory.
What truthnow78 was suggesting wasn't suggesting a nation state for just the Northern Land Council tribes/clans alone they were talking about one for ALL aboriginals. Hence the army etc. This is not the same as the inuit or US indian reservations. The legal precedent that would set would be unmanagable. We would finish up with Apatheid style homelands. Like I said the idea is ether preposterous or so naive as to be laughable. Given the supporters I'd bet on the former.

AS “but I feel sorry for you because you avoid to see the Australian reality,”
Save your pity and “Australian Reality”.
http://elecpress.monash.edu.au/pnp/free/pnpv7n4/v7n4_3price.pdf
Anglo-Celtic 69.88%
North/West European 6.88%
Southern European 6.36%
Eastern European 4.36%
West Asian / North African 2.46%
South, North and SE Asian 6.60%
Aborginal 1.51%

The rest… check the website

“Australia is full from non anglo-saxon citizens,”
Complete GARBAGE

“and they have milion of votes” So what, that is a small minority compared to the number of Anglo/Celtic Voters

I cannot find details of the Australian electorate by ethnic origin but I would speculate, them pesky Anglo-Celts will exceed to 69.88% they represent in population terms.

I personally could not give a rats, where someone comes from, never have. I only care that they are required to jump over the same hurdles as I had to, excepting refugees and family reunion, who are accepted on a different standard to the non-refugee, non family reunion migrants.

One of the great things about Australia is our multi-cultural origins but understand this, multi-cultural identities will meld into an Australian identity within a few generations. Grand children will not retain the original language of their grand parents, customs of the homeland will be lost and forgotten. The Australian way of life will prevail over the historic practices still pursued in some village in either darkest Africa of Bonnie Scotland.

Multi-culturism is just a stepping stone along the path of assimilation.

The line of an old song, “there are a lot of coffee coloured people in Brazil”

The result of mixed races

One day, in Australia the regressive genes which produce red hair and blue eyes will cease to be.
The customs and practices of Africa, like female circumcision will be abandoned (particularly as it is illegal in Australia)

And we will end up with a lot of “Coffee coloured Australians”

Personally, being a Brit, I am used to that concept, after all, “Anglo-Saxons” are neither “Angles” nor “Saxons”, nor Normans, Romans Celts or Ancient Britons. They are the Coffee-coloured people of a millennium ago, (except more latte than expresso

Foxy “"Why do you not (as Peter Costello suggested a year or two
back) bugger off back to whatever pesthole it is you
originated from?"”

Yes, that is perfectly reasonable suggestion for someone who is patently extremely intolerant of the vast majority of Australians who are of British lineage and who perverts statistics to aggrandize his position.

“I simply cannot understand why you have to
stoop to those tactics.”

It might be that I find it unacceptable when someone who comes to the forum and espouses anti-Australian rhetoric, supported by lies and accompanied by unjustified criticism of Australia’s institutions (including the date of the National Day).

Actions which, when he is obviously dissatisfied with the ways of Australia, warrants being offered the best advise.

That is, they can either put up or ship out.

Alternatively it might be that

I get a kinky pleasure out of being admonished by you

Kartiya Jim “David and Col,
True to form ,you have a problem with true Aboriginal Economic
Independence.
Your old insecurities rise to the surface again .”

Insecurities? Not at all

Aboriginals represent to me what they represent in the count of the national populations, that is 1.51% - to be honest.. they are insignificant, especially when that number includes a lot of people who are, by inherited blood line, more Anglo-Celt than aboriginal.

The part I do not understand is why do we exhaust so much of the community’s resources in pandering to the insignificant?

Col the Troll: << Aboriginals represent to me what they represent in the count of the national populations, that is 1.51% - to be honest.. they are insignificant >>

Just about says it all really - at least about Col.

It seems that we in Australia are terribly touchy and
thin-skinned on the subject of any criticism.

I can understand the point of view that unloving
criticism is a shove and a put down, and will often be
met with anger and an equal and opposite reaction.

But unless we all learn to tone down what we have to say,
we're not likely to be in a position to have something
worth saying, especially if our agenda becomes hostile.

Dear Belly,

I jumped in to defend Antonios, because of the ill-mannered
way in which he was personally attacked.

Dear Col,

An intelligent man such as yourself could have handled the
matter in a different less abrasive way.

Dear examinator,

Thank You for the history of your gran. She sounds like a
remarkable woman. We've also got a relative in our family
of the same ilk. She's still alive (almost ninety). She
was made a Governor of Mount Royal Geriatric Hospital (now
closed), for her dedicated service to working with the aged
for over 30 years. She was a nurse, and for her it was a
labour of love.

As for the question of Australia's native people, as historian
Henry Reynolds states in his book, "Why weren't we told?":

"It is now possible to explore the past by means of large
numbers of books, articles, films, novels, songs and
paintings. Many voices have filled out the space once
claimed by Stanner's Great Australian Silence. We can know
a great deal about the history of indigenous-settler relations.
But knowing brings burdens which can be shirked by those
living in ignorance. With knowledge the question is no
longer what we know but what we are now to do, and that is
a much harder matter to deal with. It will continue to
perplex us for many years to come..."