not as easy as it seems is it to stop our young ones being the future drunks in our society but not all are of bad nature some can stop at one or two but others binge to the end

a lot is peer pressure bordem some think they can be the adult

the goverment really has done very little to limit our kids from alchol as it is readliy available

their is more abuse from alchol than any other drug thats not legal and i beleave thats true

the habit of drinking is when one sees another drinking they would like one their self

the goverment has the control of the alchol

maybe it be better that way then we would know that its not the local super market selling the drug alchol

and yes it is a drug a legal one that takes peoples lifes for reasons beyond their control becuase they have abused what they drunk and all awareness has gone from their brain

the other is the bordem of being isolated so they choice to drink alchol instead of water

our population is growing more each year and alchol is the legal drug that damages more lifes than any other drug

i can only hope that those who are helping their faimly and friends as you are foxy that their life turns around for them and to everyone out their who has binged

also its just not the kids who binge drink its also adults

but in reality we are responablie for our children and if they do wrong we tell them but their are those who don't care what the parent or gaurdian have to say

my answer is take them off the shelf

most of all get it out of our super markets and let it only be gotten from the pubs bottlo

its cheaper for them to buy a large 700ml bottle and a bottle of make up coridial than it is to buy a six pack of crusiers or what ever

stay sober ,ya stay alive

huffnpuff

From The Bottom Of My Heart,
Thanks to Everyone for all your advice
and comments.

They are deeply appreciated.

All The Best,

Binge drinking, or any other type of alcohol abuse is unfortunately not really a 'teen' problem. One of my sons tells me that with increasing the cost of alcopops it is cheaper to get drugs. At least that appears to be the perception, whether true or not I have no idea.

We need to acknowledge that getting 'blotto', 'wrecked' 'off my face',etc and then 'chundering' is seen as having good Aussie fun and having a great night out. Those terms were some of the first 'Australian culture lessons' I was taught more than 30 years ago. It puzzled me greatly at the time. I was used to thinking that having a great night out was to connect with somebody of the opposite sex. Chundering and being incoherent gets in the way of that!

ColR, someone I do not tend to agree with on many things, pointed out that an alcoholic does have the choice not to live the life of a drunk.

It is also a simplification to suggest that the rest of the family and friends have no part to play and can only wait for the alcoholic to 'admit' they have a problem.

As ColR's partner is learning in Al-Anon, as I had to, there are a number of us- family, friends, workmates- who are aiding and abetting the alcoholic to continue with their particular mode of self destruction.

I'm only amused that anti-government ColR is apparantly turning to government agencies to apply the big stick to those who abuse alcohol by using financial threats. That'd be like water of a duck's back. When drunk somebody is not thinking rationally about any consequences. When drunk the propensity to behave anti-socially, even criminally is rather high.

It is not only the alcoholic, but also those close to the alcoholic who need to take responsibility and examine how we are complicit.

Al-Anon is an excellent place to go for support. Foxy, I recommend the parents of your nephew at least have a look. Just doing a 'geographical' is not going to really change anything.

Dear Yvonne,

Thanks for that. And I couldn't agree with you more.
Doing a geographical was a point of argument with
my brother (but that's another story). Anyway,
it didn't help much at all.

I will refer the agency to my brother's family.
And we'll see what happens. It's a difficult situation,
but We're definitely not giving up on him. As I said,
he's such a great guy, and really deserves help.
I love him so much...

Bronwyn,

That's really interesting. I would say throughout my whole life, at any time of the day I could easily lie down and have a 3 hour sleep. I usually sleep 8-10 hours a night also.

I've been diagnosed with depression a couple of times and been medicated, I've self medicated with heavy use of drugs and alcohol at times, but when I look back the constant symptoms have been lethargy, tiredness, memory impairment and poor concentration.

Randomly I've seen health professionals to look a little deeper but they usually just think I'm depressed. You know how quick doctors take per 2 minute consultation these days. It has occurred to me my root problem may be physical, but getting someone like House MD to diagnose me seems far fetched. Thanks for the info, I will look into this more. Either that or invest in a coca plant...

Houellebecq

"It has occurred to me my root problem may be physical, but getting someone like House MD to diagnose me seems far fetched."

I agree.

The Australian College of Nutritional and Environmental Medicine has a list of registered practitioners which may be of use to you.

http://www.acnem.org/modules/mastop_publish/?tac=Referrals

I found an excellent doctor through this list who practised in my area and was across both conventional and natural medicine. Unfortunately he's since returned to England. I've since found another doctor who, while not as knowledgeable in the area is at least amenable to natural therapies, and I go to a naturopath as well.

This combination seems to work. The average MP isn't trained in nutrition and doesn't understand the causal relationship between nutritional deficiency and illness. But they're useful for testing and monitoring, plus it can further your own understanding to be able to distil from two sets of opinions.

If you haven't already done so, completing the NBI on the Hypoglycaemia website is a good starting point.

Good luck! Hope you find the answers to achieving better health.