Congratulations, Belly.

This thread has been very, very illuminating.

Belly,

“…if you do not believe the emotional over the top one sided minority views…”

That kind of statement, has in the past, more often than not, been an indictment of the majority who had it wrong.

Jonathon

Belly

I admire you as a poster and my criticism of you here is not personal, but as I have said repeatedly, you did not attempt to present a balanced thread. You had a very obvious agenda right from the start to ridicule PETA and you kept chipping in to do it at regular intervals. Despite all your many protestations, you were not at all interested in seeking the truth. You made no attempt to understand and debate the real meaning and reason behind the sea kitten campaign.

I'm not affiliated with PETA in any way, but I applaud its efforts over the years in raising the profile of animal rights. In much the same way you've spent a good part of your life working towards improving rights for workers, so too have the people in PETA worked for the rights of others who don't have a voice. They're dedicated volunteers, their campaigns are research based and they just dont deserve the ignorant treatment you've dished up to them here, Belly.

You said you wont be looking in here again but we all know you will. We also know there'll be no acknowledgement of your error, because if there's one thing we've learnt about you, Belly, it's that you're intractably stubborn! :)

"I admire you as a poster...."

Alas Bronwyn I am not so generous of heart.

However, your assessment of Belly's motives is beyond dispute.

Belly's underbelly message confirms that he has not the slightest interest in the welfare of defenceless animals but of course, his own welfare is paramount. He continues to extoll the "virtues" of those who abuse animals ie., the live export industry and not least, his hero, Yabby, who exports live animals and chops up puppies.

On a recent unrelated thread he denounces others:

"A thread started by a troll, surely most agree?
Now diverted into an active thread about Australia.
And some of us cringe in the corner red faced that some of us should commit the great sin."

Yes indeed Belly, we cringe when we read your nauseating sermons. Perhaps these ignoble traits could be dismissed were it not for the disloyalty you show your own, when you, self-appointed spokesperson on OLO, for Australia's union movement, publicly attack those unions who oppose live exports, claiming they do so to protect their own selfish interests.

Your considerable endeavours to defame the animal welfare movement have failed. Your insidious and/or overt abuse of this movement has been of significant detriment to your own crusade -Australia's union movement and that of its dwindling membership.

Such treachery Belly - Judas would be proud!

*who exports live animals and chops up puppies.*

Err dickie, lets get these things straight, as you
try to defame me yet once again.

I sell my livestock to the highest bidder, you are
free to buy them if you wish. I don't export live
animals, but yup, I sell to the live trade, if nobody
in Australia can be bothered to buy them and process them
here.

Next thing, I don't chop up puppies. I guillotined a
couple of 2 day old pups, for the benefit of their
mommy and the other 6, as 8 was simply too many and
everyone was stressing.

No sorry, I don't do the 2 hour bottle feed thinggy,
that is women's work :) Just because I am practical
and not engulfed with maternal instincts as you are,
the main thing that you are too thick to understand
is that what I did reduced suffering.

Now if you can show me why guillotining a 2 day old
pup, about as big as a large mouse, is cruel and not
a quick end, so speak up.

Clearly the logic and reason of all this is way beyond
you, as your instincts clearly impell you to bemother
goats and anything else that moves.

BTW, animals are not exactly defenseless or kind for
that matter. Just last week I watched a ewe constantly
headbutt a day old lamb, as it was not hers and the lamb
was confused. She nearly killed the poor little bugger.

Pity you were not there to run to its rescue :)

Are the animal rights groups working on any reciprocal agreement with the animals to allow safe passage for humans in the wild? I anticipate that next time I am in trouble in the ocean, a friendly shark will escort me safely to the beach.