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Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 31 January 2009 6:26:27 PM
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Nicky
Your behaviour very damaging to the animals.Your obsession with PALE and RSPCA just too much. Ever since PALE joined OLO as institute members you libbers have flamed and trolled our organisation for 3 years. Too dishonest to post in your real Ids. THE reference to ABA was of course, to show other industries who BTW would know far more than you are also unhappy with MLA. It was within complete following of the thread (as it’s gone) The only personality that is damaging anybody is yours and a few of your extreme friends also obsessed with PALE and RSPCA. The RSPCA QLD web site on live exports shows their position on the topic being discussed. With respect (no without respect ) to you Nicky the RSPCA position on thi is all that matters. Now I have tried to put up with a lot slander from you but honestly to start knocking RSPCA QLD is a bit too much. RSPCA QLD have gone the extra mile to meet with and support programmes to phase out live exports and divert to chilled. Look at this web site and tell me who do you see there. Do you see the RSPCA QLD CEO personally meeting with not only Muslims heads here but world wide= Or do we see ‘you’ Nicky. http://www.halakindmeats.com Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 31 January 2009 7:48:42 PM
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Yikes......vot zounds does ze hear from PALE now Nicky? Anuzza alta ego has reveeled its horrid faze or iz it all 17 of zem droring neera and neera.
Saiv youzelf Nicky me girlie. Flea whiel youse can - is so unspeakably horid it make me shudda! Zis letta go to ze hart of ze matta by considaring PALE canot have a hors race wizout ze rida! frum Mis hickenhopper Posted by dickie, Saturday, 31 January 2009 9:54:59 PM
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Dickie, you have been reading too many of PALE's posts, I fear. I'm sure you will recover your usual acuity very soon though. I saw a car sticker once that might interest you - it says "so sue me".
PALE, I have seen your slaughterhouse website. Apart from the truly painful music, and some incredibly boring, self-indulgent and questionably relevant material about an old farmer related to you, please tell us - 1)Precisely when did this performance take place, 2)Precisely what has happened since and 3)How long since this ancient material has been properly updated. Why on earth would your delusions tell you that the RSPCA's position is the only one that matters? It doesn't matter, any more than any opinions (even if they were relevant to this discussion) of the ABA. Its opinions simply add to the voices already raised; nothing more. With two live export farmers on the State Council of RSPCA WA, its position is not particularly consistent either. Given the money that RSPCA state branches all have INVESTED - money donated by the public in the belief that it is to be used for the benefit of animals, and by governments for statutory duties to be carried out, other groups with far less funding available to them manage to keep their material current and relevant. Let's not forget the Pace Farms (battery egg) royalties either, and the conflicts of interest with RSPCA branches being funded by state governments who do not want them to be particularly active in those statutory duties. Some states are better than others but there is clear evidence of instances of 'failure to act' in almost every state. If you had the slightest awareness, or any real empathy for animals (beyond slaughtering them), you would know that. You would be better off, if you want to parrot the work of other people, appropriately citing some of the more recent media material readily available at your beloved RSPCA Queensland website (much of the campaign material used provided by Animals Australia). Don't forget to tell us when the "meetings" took place, will you? Nicky Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 31 January 2009 10:46:59 PM
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So here we are, 44 pages, 263 posts…
That must be a record for a general post…. Therefore I declare Belly, as the initiator of the thread, the winner of this weeks meat tray…. And I guess PETA gets the tofu tray. And dickie gets a special consolation prize for speaking in tongues…. a tray of tongues… After all, dickie is so used to talking with a forked one and she did accuse me of doing the same but has, predictably been unable to substantiate her abuse... Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 1 February 2009 5:21:33 AM
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I did not think I would return to this thread, it went of subject long ago, well I knew it would.
However in another thread it has been said I started this one to attack PETA, well no! Like the greater majority I have seen the sea kittens idea as quite mad, and a way of highlighting PETAS mission, and as a result its stupidity. Of course I knew it would degenerate into a war, it was not my intention, Nicky started a thread, I was stunned it did not get a look at. Animal welfare stalled in OLO? I wanted debate genuine debate about PETA and the need to stoop to such stupidity. It was always clear, if you have a view different than SOME who post in animal welfare threads, you will be insulted targeted reviled even. This thread carried on tradition, look at yabbys cheeky for sure but not very wrong if at all posts. Look then at the insults thrown at him. See my first post read my every comment here. cheeky, yes sometimes after all I am a working class Aussie bloke who has lived on the land, real outback land, killed my own sheep or cattle. I will not name the two Lady's but you just will not escape being insulted and more if you do not believe the emotional over the top one sided minority views they have do any good for animal welfare. I started the thread in vain, you can not debate animal welfare at OLO. Thread always end up with only a few activists shouting at one another, one after another people like me abandon such threads. That is a shame, but it is also true. have the last word girls but I will not return to read them, its not worth the effort. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 5:17:40 AM
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I'm somewhat mystified about what relevance the ABA's opinions are to this thread too. And I can't want to see the 747 aircraft loaded with 100,000+ sheep either. PALE, do get a grip. Did anyone ever say there was no focus on the journey? Why do you think Animals Australia went ahead with Graham Daws' AAT attempt to block information on several "Al Kuwait" journeys? Why do you think they went to great trouble and expense to get other reports under FOI provisions? Perhaps a multi-faceted campaign is beyond PALE's comprehension.
If this is on RSPCA Queensland's website, what does it mean? The only place a ship would "dock" is in the destination port/s:
"Once docked outside Australian territory, the Australian Animal Protection Legislation no longer applies to the animals".
Is it supposed to mean once the ship leaves Australian waters? In fact, it is really poorly put together; what it should say is that the animals are covered by state POCTAA legislation until they go into "registered premises" (feedlots), after which they come under AQIS control (so in reality have no further protection at all). Animals rejected between feedlot and port are destroyed on the orders of AQIS (or loaded anyway!). Once they are on the ship they have no protection either. RSPCA Queensland should consider updating this to correct these technical errors.
Nicky