PALE, no-one is speaking "on behalf" of PETA or anyone else - the information here was simply the product of fundamental research. You should try it some time. Why can you not put your differences with (seemingly) every known animal advocacy organisation/individual behind you, get on with doing your thing and letting them do theirs? If they don't want to follow the PALE dogma, so be it, that is their right and their choice. Nor would I expect any of them to bother appearing here to counter your claims; they have more productive and effective things to do and appear to be doing them quite successfully.

As for writing to Fielding, why on earth would I bother? The man is an idiot.

You misrepresent all the other groups continually with your claims that they do not support a frozen meat trade; all make it absolutely clear that that is in fact their agenda. Some may have a preference in encouraging a vegetarian lifestyle and that is their right, and part of their function is to educate people about cruelty to "livestock" in meat-eating cultures. In fact, none that I know of would do so because they are not dogmatic, and a substantial number of members may be meat eaters, upon whom they reply for support.

Please start a new year by trying to appear just slightly factual and less confrontational. And get over issues that are years old. Try for something new for a change.

And I suspect you have things back to front again - pet shops BUY from puppy mills, they would be unlikely to be selling to them (I note you unashamedly use information from the websites of the other organisations you claim are despicable and still get it wrong).

98% of the population being meat eaters is something of an exaggeration too. It is a blanket statement that fails to recogise a) a growth in vegetarianism and b) the number of people decreasing their consumption of meat. Perhaps you could provide a source for such a self-serving statement.

Nicky

Yes Yabby they are worthy creatures indeed. And during and after these livestock have served your purpose, you hack off their backsides, hack off their testicles, hogtie them and stab them in the throat. And as for your surplus pups, well you did inform us that you chop them up with an axe.

“Your pet however, serves no purpose other then to satisfy
your personal needs.”

I am for sure a fulfilled woman Yabby. All my personal needs are satisfied by hard work, a lover, children, grandchildren, my animals and my close friends.

My favours are shared equally among them except perhaps when we decline invitations where our dog is not invited. Nevertheless, he enjoys many dinner parties, trips to the bush, trips to the ocean, café lattes on the river and the car……oh my………such heaven with his snout out the window taking in delicious scents.

Our dog guards our house and our lives. He cleans the ears of our three legged cat who is still capable of discouraging the mice and our goat eats the weeds and they all sleep together. Such valuable animals are these who ask for little in return.

So what do yours and Pericles’ “pets” look like Yabby? The ones you seek out to satisfy your personal needs? Are they blue eyed blondes with long legs or buxom brunettes with flashing eyes? Do they cook and clean for you? Feign interest in your dribble? Are they refined in public and “animals” in bed?

But why, I wonder, do I get the impression that you have nothing to satisfy any of your personal needs Yabby? After all, you did advise OLO that your last “pet” ran away. I wonder why? Callous Yabby, incapable of compassion; incapable of expressing love and incapable of receiving it.

“Do not be so blind Nicky*. We are not the animals enermy (sic)”

PALE what a pity you don’t speak the lingo of animals for if you could, they would certainly tell you that you ARE the enemy for you lure and bully them into your abattoir and slit their throats!

Ah well there we have it. One moment we were discussing a valid
philosophical question about pets being slaves, yet a couple
of females can do no better then turn it into their own private
little bitchfest.

One of the local characters once told me "You know, alot of these
females, if they never had that little map of Tassie, no bloke
would ever talk to them" I still chuckle about that one :)

*Why can you not put your differences ….*
Wasn’t PALE wagered war, was your veggie mates.

HKM was established to hand over lock stock and barrel to RSPCA +Animals Australia. They were invited to join our MOU with Muslim leaders from day one to work united to phase out live exports to replace with chilled.

It was rejected.

Now it goes to the Humane Society +RSPCA QLD
‘if the current CEO is still in place.-) every cent of it!

http://rachel-siewert.greensmps.org.au/content/media-release/greens-end-live-animal-exports-now

Rachel`s great. Why on earth would I ‘target’ her.

Elections have been won and lost through the
Church votes or religious organisations
since the beginning of time.

Steve Fielding policies are a matter of public interest.
We found Family First is not concerned
by lost jobs in country towns and bush.

Zero compassion for farm animals exported “ALIVE”
despite being made fully aware of the barbaric cruelty to what HE claims are Gods Creatures.

I posted important information regarding the
Media that Steve Fielding passed.

Then you ask ‘why’ I mention Family first Senator Fielding.- curious

*Is there proof that all the families mentioned have a direct link to the live export trade?*

You must be kidding. You come in threads
dictating like a Minister on a Sunday morning
and you don’t know that.

Then again I seem to recall you people
also didn’t know about AWBs involvement
in live exports either.( Or claimed not to)=

http://www.livexports.com/cowgun.html

Question. What have everyone been doing the last 20 years.


Dickie said
*You misrepresent all the other groups continually with your claims that they do not support a frozen meat trade;*

PALE replies- Why such interest in an organisation you ‘claim’ no part of.?

Dickie, ‘You ‘ demonstrate that point far better than I or anybody else could, by your next comment.- Thank You.=

*PALE what a pity you don’t speak the lingo of animals for if you could, they would *certainly tell you that you ARE the enemy for you lure and bully them into your abattoir and slit their throats!

Posted by dickie, Saturday, 24 January 2009 11:18:10 PM

"Dickie said
*You misrepresent all the other groups continually with your claims that they do not support a frozen meat trade;*"

Errr.......no, no! Dickie did not say that.

Have another joint PALE!

Dickie,

*PALE what a pity you don’t speak the lingo of animals for if you could, they would *certainly tell you that you ARE the enemy for you lure and bully them into your abattoir and slit their throats!*

Posted by dickie, Saturday, 24 January 2009 11:18:10 PM

Does that sound like somebody supporting slaughtering in Australia to divert the live Animal Trade. NO I dont think so. Try as you may you have again blown your cover and agenda. Again I thank You.

Your dishonesty is screaming at the Australian Government.
This works in reverse of assisting the very animals we are fighting to lesson the suffering of.


It is a matter of record you have ‘both ‘ attacked pale for their projects to reopen abattoirs in Australia to phase out live exports such as your comment above dated 24th January.

Surely you are not denying you’re opposed to our organisations operations to slaughter in Australia to phase out live animal exports.

Personally I have no problem with vegetarian people.

I think they are the best people on earth.

However Australia is not a vegetarian country and we must do something to stop the suffering of those animals going live 'now'.

What I do find unbelievable and very concerning is straight out dishonesty of some people who hold your ideology.

No wonder why the Government have no respect for Animal Welfare groups and do not trust them.


For anybody who was unaware there is a movement to unseat RSPCA in Australia being run by vegetarian groups=
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24411799-2,00.html

Could you refrain stop using such terminology as explosives and -Have another joint- or he`s an idiot….

He’s a member of Parliament in this country and deserves at least to be addressed in a proper manner (regardless or not if we agree with his policy.)

Those types of comments do nothing to assist animals and reflect on all groups.