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Bad News from Gaza

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White phosphorus is being used by the Israeli military in Gaza which causes horrendous burns, multi organ failure and lung damage (Australian, Jan 6 2009). Thanks to the Israeli blockade of medicines, fuel, bandages, machinery etc there is now no water for 530,000 people and, with only 3 days diesel left, the sewage pumping stations will stop and raw sewage will spill onto streets. This is defacto biological warfare.
Given that Gaza is the most densely populated place on earth it is bleeding obvious that hi-tech US guns, attack helicopters, tanks, F 16 fighter jets and warships blitzkrieging, amounts to a crime against humanity violating the Geneva Convention. The terror inflicted upon innocent children witnessing the blood and guts, the destruction of buildings, suffering severe wounds themselves and having their ears being pounded by intense sonic waves is a massive crime. The reaction of the Rudd government is downright appalling and a shame to Australia. Forum contributors lauding Christian conversion might like to excercise their minds with the question: What would Jesus do?
Posted by voltaire, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:16:50 AM
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Dear Voltaire....

and for all.. repeat ALL of that list of suffering...there is only ONE party to blame...

You know which one? It's THIS ONE... the one which is founded on the words:

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"

and of course we all know that is..HAMAS....HAMAS....HAMAS.....

Do you understand the meaning of language? "OBLITERATE"

Do you have a shred of honesty in your heart? "OBLITERATE"

Do you have any honour..and any integrity in your being: "O-B-L-I-T-E-R-A-T-E"

How many times does a person need to post this foundation objective of Hamas? before dimwits in denial get it?

It was not easy to identify every Nazi in Germany..and due to the nature of war and the way Nazi's have enmeshed themselves into the community.. a heck of a lot of German 'civilians' suffered..

THAT'S WAR... and it was declared in this case in 1988 when that Charter was put together.

THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED IT....OR DENIED IT....OR RENOUNCED IT..... SO IT STILL APPLIES TO THIS SECOND.

Don't play games with our emotions by mentioning only ONE side of this sad conflict... be HONEST and mention the 6000 rockets hurled at Israeli KINDERGARTENS..(one of which was hit today)

HAMAS are NOT..repeat NOT using their rockets to my knowledge against the Israeli Military...they are STILL launching them against CIVILIAN targets.

HAMAS IS A VILE GENOCIDAL GUILTY GROUP OF ISLAMIST WARMONGERS and all the suffering of the people of Gaza is on THEIR heads, for which they should be tried for crimes against humanity.
Posted by Polycarp, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:38:10 AM
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“to a crime against humanity violating the Geneva Convention.”

Maybe if they stopped dropping rockets on Israelis and followed through with some of the negotiated peace accords which they have been party to over the years, they would not be in this pooh

“The terror inflicted upon innocent children…”

Is no different to the terror of rockets landing on innocent Jewish children.

“What would Jesus do?”

Well I am sure he would not persuade his sister to become a human bomb

An old saying…

Let him who is without sin throw the first stone…

Palestinians have been throwing stones, bombs, blowing up aircraft with civilians still in them, assassinating Olympic atheletes they have indulged their overgrown sense of “Self Entitlement” to the point that the Jordanians kicked them out of Jordan and the Egyptians want nothing to do with them.

Heres another old saying

May they reap what they sow.

This problem will be resolved only when Israel prevails, what remains to be seen is just how committed Israel is to prevailing.

my view, if you intend to fight a war, you will not prevail with half measures or those fsvoured by the pundits who promote a "restrained response" (whatever that is).

The best scenario is to commit completely with the intent of disabling / destroying the enemy's potential for any form of counter attack / action, not just for now but for ever.
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:49:15 AM
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Actually Jesus is coming back at Armageddon with a sharp two-edged sword in his mouth to kill the Kings Of The Earth and their armies...Revelation 19:17-21.
The Kings Of The East will be there too...i.e China and her 200 million troops.

I think Jesus puts up with little beeswax when it comes to Israel.

After all...they are Gods people.
Posted by Gibo, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 12:02:27 PM
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hamash fired rockets into Israeland are now getting them back ...it's like the old saying" people in glass houses do not throw stones"!
Posted by dagwood4053, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 1:51:15 PM
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Col Rouge, Polycarp and Gibo exemplify their ignorance of Palestinian/Israeli politics and history to such an extent that I recommend they read what non-Zionist Israelis themselves are saying just in case they want to stump up a charge against me of anti-semitism. First off, read Adam Keller's "Terrible Days:Social Divisions and Political Paradoxes in Israel" and then ask yourselves how you would react to being ousted from land which your family had worked for a century or more; to be ordered at gunpoint by a recently arrived Russian Jew to get out, for example. Why can't Palestinians sink wells as deep as those of Israelis? Why can't they export citrus crops? Why do they have to be passive as they watch Israeli settlements spreading over their landscape and listen to fundamentalist settlers mouth that they have been given the land by God and that's that? And so it goes on, repression, repression, repression backed up by the biggest nuclear-armed military in the Middle East and funded by $3 billion p.a. by the US and set to increase soon.
The Israelis kicked out from Palestine Prof. Richard Falk the UN's Special Raporteur and banned journalists from Gaza because they don't want the world to know the truth of their barbarity which, for example, has left huge swathes of Lebanon covered in cluster bombs awaiting a farmer or a curious child.
Read Akiva Eldar's "White Flag, Black Flag" in which he says:
"The question that must be asked, therefore, is how many Palestinians and Israelis must die before the Israeli public wakes up from its new-old illusion that tanks and planes can perpetuate the occupation. The answer: As long as Israelis expect Palestinians to raise white flags, a black flag will fly over their own head". (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1052621.html)
Peter Ustinov told the truth when he said "From the US war against Viet Nam to the "War on Terror", we see State terror: "Terrorism is the war of the poor. War is the terrorism of the rich"
Posted by voltaire, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 2:10:52 PM
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