bugsy,evolution isa theory[my br-other[i got nothing against it being a reasonable theory[its just when you state'its science'[and cant'prove it'is science,bro cant you see how that looks

if you dont got the facts to prove your statement,well that speaks for itself,...so many have suppported the evolution is science,but the only'proof'they can give that it is is about'speciation'[changes within species[not evolution into'genus'[which is what evolution is claiming]

there are gaps..[right where the genus changes genus]a coincidence science cant refute,so i put it as strike one[science has never made'life'from non-life[strike two,it is unable to postulate even a theory about'how'it could prove'it'expermentally[3]

but it gets worse[it has had succes in courts]on the basis that teaching religion in'science'class is'unconstitutional[and yes it won that case[but it wasnt creation that was on trial[it was teaching religion in public schools[4]

..but then'evolutionists'need to lie about it[5]..then when they cant answer they rebut with insult,because they cant prove the deception[6]..then they withdraw saying'never'again[not even posting it at site[7]..mate what can i do,..to let people believe a'lie'makes me'guilty'for not trying to show you[what you]need to'prove'to validate_evolution INTO'a'science

mate its not about'religion[the'origonal'topic excluded religion because i wanted a'science'debate[not about'religion'..[its aBOUT SCIENCE PROVING ITS SCIENCE..[BUT THE'DEBATE'STRAIGHT AWAY WENT TO WHAT I BELIEVE,lol,..ABOUT GOD[NOT/PART OF/THE DEBATE[BUT MY NON-REPLY WAS TAKEN AS SOME PROOF[darn caplock]

mate all i want is the science..[you didnt[couldnt present it]its no shame...[i been searching for that definative'proof'all my life[i had the debate inside me for-ever,..if only peopple would stop calling satan'evolution'clause[real]science...[this stoner knows the science] and dont care what your'religion/belief'is[only that the'believers'who clain'science'[over faith]..prove the science]

anyhow merry xmass[whatever your beliefs]power too you..[im sorry for pointing out the bleeding obvious...[but evolution bro stands on feet of clay...[its'high_priests'claim science...but even they couldnt prove it

[blind faith in religion or science...is just blind faith]...im against blind faith..[but if you put'faith in fairy-tales'..its time you at least know it as the faith-based..belief it is

Foxy “Dear Col,

Again, your wicked sense of humour provides
just the right touch to this discussion ...”

Thankyou Foxy, as one of my favourite “poster girls” may I wish you a Happy and Bountiful New Year in this, my first post of 2009.

Spikey “Col Rouge and the rest of the God squad take a sabbatical.”

Hmmm.. not sure any of the God-Squadies would ever include me among their number but I am pleased to see you posting, we all need an easy target sometimes and you do provide such a convenient one : - )

Personally, I welcome the diversity of opinions here.

How boring it would be to have a consensus on every topic.

Anyway may 2009 be as bountiful experience for you all… as I anticipate it will be for me

Col Rouge: "...not sure any of the God-Squadies would ever include me among their number..."

Oh I think they'd be happy to have your ever reactionary views to add to theirs.

I'm so pleased that you are pleased to see me posting...but your reasons are, as usual, spurious and lightweight.

But Col, in the spirit of the New Year and in response to your message of goodwill, I'll agree wholeheartedly with you on one aspect: "Personally, I welcome the diversity of opinions here. How boring it would be to have a consensus on every topic." That's a noble sentiment.

My one caveat is - as ever - an expectation that the opinions are based on some relevant evidence and a reasoned argument. Now, as a New Year's wish, is that too much to expect?

Spikey “your ever reactionary views”

Ah thankyou, I feel it is far better to be associated with the tried and tested views of the supposed “reactionary” than the flimsy-whimsy of the impotent activist, ever ready to criticize what has happened previously yet lacking the innovation to contribute to the future.

“but your reasons are, as usual, spurious and lightweight.”

Oh no Spikey, I doubt you would understand my reasons, sufficiently cast dispersions upon them, we will just accept you observation as that shallow response of the flimsy-whimsy, as previously described.

Actually to give you a clue, this moment now is one of those reasons for welcoming your posts : - )

“My one caveat is - as ever - an expectation that the opinions are based on some relevant evidence and a reasoned argument.”

Oooh… not sure about that, I think you are pushing the envelope a bit Spikey,

I suggest you lead by showing us, in future, what you mean

Although, I will not hold my breath,

Your posts thus far have fallen well short of that expectation and there is a word for those who expect of others that which they cannot muster in themselves....

Spikey,

You will become accustomed to Col-onoscopy Rouge's supercilious style of comment, lots elegantly written and condescending drivel attempting to disguise his inability to come up with an original thought of his own.

As you will no doubt recognise this is typical denial behaviour of the aspiring “'petty' bourgeoisie.

We’ve nicked named him col-onoscopy simple because he is forever exploring his own rear passage - hoping to find wisdom and insight. The rest is OLO legend.

Hear hear Foxy I am all for greater tolerance and understanding.

Happy New Year everyone. May all your flowers bloom in 2009. :)

(Sorry Bronwyn and CJ sometimes just can't help doing a smiley)