http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prebiotic_evolution

Ah, but it could have been an rna soup!

You see, your mind is closed, as you search for
any reason to dismiss the possibility and understand
what we do know.

The fellows working on this are a little smarter then
you and your McDonalds world lol.

Rather then give credit to the huge amount that we
have discovered in such a short time and how that
mountain of evidence continues to grow daily,

You just want the "god did it" answer, as that is
what you believe. It ain't that simple sunshine,
for you could be wrong. But it makes you feel better,
I know, and humans are emotional creatures after
all, just like chimps :)

yabby..your link>>..,the exact sequence of chemical events that led to the first nucleic acids is not known.>>

but earlier it reveals another gem

>>Thus the question of the origin of life is a question of how the first nucleic acids came into existence.>>

so..lets skip past logic..and say..that the'rna..in this 'primordial'-sea'..has made amino-acids AND proteins,..what can they'act'on?..[this is pre'cell'/life;remember]?

http://www.ummah.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-22544.html

there is only dna...but there is no cell to use it

http://www.pierce.ctc.edu/biology/BSeavy/CHAPTER%20CONCEPTS%20AND%20TERMS.htm

[its a clasic case of what came first;.'the cell'or that it needs to..'live']..enzymes and[20]amino acids..[the'minimum'needed for'life']...see previous debate

but we seem to have reached a two cell sepperation..[again not explainable,..thus not proven..[thus revealing[lol]..'gaps']

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokaryote

>>The prokaryotes..singular prokaryote are a group of organisms that lack a cell nucleus(= karyon),or any other membrane-bound organelles/>>ie a cell<<...They differ from the eukaryotes,which have a cell nucleus>>

>>The prokaryotes are divided into two domains:..the bacteria and the archaea.

Archaea>>..a new link

>>A distinction between prokaryotes and eukaryotes(meaning true kernel,also spelled "eucaryotes")is that eukaryotes do have "true" nuclei containing their DNA,

<< Eukaryotic organisms may be uni-cellular,as in amoebae,or multicellular,as in plants and humans.

The difference between the structure of prokaryotes and eukaryotes is so great that it is considered to be the most important distinction among groups of organisms>>

but re-other link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_(biology)

leading[lol]to the tree of life[lol]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life_(science)

leading to this gem

>>Modern biologists now recognize,however,that the prokaryotes,...the bacteria, have the ability to transfer genetic information between unrelated organisms.<<ie cellular/life>>Recombination,gene loss,duplication,and gene creation are a few of the processes by which genes can be transferred ...within and between<<egsisting>>bacterial species,...causing variation that’s not due to vertical transfer.

The tree of life gives an incomplete picture of life at this level>>

lol..seems it has'lost a branch',BUT we now might be looking for 4 cells not 5[or is it 5 cells not just one or two]

http://www.apollon.uio.no/vis/art/2007_4/Artikler/The_Tree_of_Life

but see the link...[leads back to the brain]...god is such a joker...[lol]

http://www.apollon.uio.no/vis/art/2008_4/artikler/hjernen_nodbrems

anyhow im over it[thanks for trying yabby]..im stcking with god...

[this chews up too much of my postings..[had to wait 5 hours just to post this]
http://www.idnet.com.au/files/pdf/Darwin's%20Black%20Box%20Michael%20Behe.PDF

*anyhow im over it[thanks for trying yabby]..im stcking with god...*

You just do that UOG, for I have always maintained that some
people need religion to cope with life, fair enough. Whatever
gets you through the night :)

Now you have to figure out which god, for if we study those holy
books we hear about talking snakes, talking clouds and IIRC
even talking ants! We know of course that religion basically
comes down to geography. Most people believe what they were
indoctrinated with as children.

But if it helps achieve homeostasis in your brain chemistry,
then so be it, you feel better after that.

Back to science, you won't learn anything objective about science
from religious websites lol.

Think about how much we have discovered in the last 100 years.
Always, when something was unknown, somebody would jump up
and say "God did it". The god of the gaps will no doubt continue
in the minds of the simplistic.

If you lay out all that information and see it as a huge puzzle,
every day new information is added by science which adds another
piece to the picture, slowly the picture emerges, even if the
odd bit is missing here and there. So what? Time and human
curiosity will eventually produce the answers, if not tomorrow,
then perhaps next year or in 10 years or 50 years. There is
no rush.

How prebiotic replicators originally came about is solvable,
as are other questions. The religious, with their predetermined
bias, always say something is impossible, until it is solved.

Today even the Catholic Church accepts evolution theory as
a fact, for their scientists know that reality has to be faced
and cannot be denied.

At least now you know for sure that you are made of much
the same parts as chimpanzees, only slightly different shapes
to a few bones, etc. Your god clearly had a sense of
humour when he made you 99% the same :)

damm everytime i think the debate is over god reveals new facts to me
here is the lastest
http://www.accessexcellence.org/AE/AEPC/WWC/1994/geneticstln.php

QUOTE>> History of Genetics Timeline
Jo Ann Lane
1994 Woodrow Wilson Collection

As scientists sought to understand more about the nature of inheritance of traits,hereditary processes were explained in ever increasing detail beginning at the populational level and going toward the molecular level.

Keeping this fact in mind will help in understanding the timeline which follows.>>



if you read it you will note evolution has not been confirmed



,but i hear you ask why not,this needs the next link,revealing rockafella's take over of the industy,educaTION MEDIA SCIENCE,removing anoung other things the vitamins from our diets,and taking over medicine and reshapping education,AND SELLIN YOU ON EVOLUTION...[ULTIMATE FAITH IN SCIENCE NOT GOD

http://vodpod.com/watch/504278-excitotoxins-msg-dr-russel-blaylock



it has its fruits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPI7zdGdqo4&feature=related

by controling banking,oil,education,media,science and medicine they can sell us anything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc5MPhOfW6M


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT-OKs09oaU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joweZ6uM5iY&feature=related

i couldnt give a daMM about your opinion;s
put up your proof of the things alowed to be developed over the last 100 years my butt[100 years ago we had petro autos, electric trams[now no trams but diesal trains]

your quite fooled by this new world order giving you cancers and gmo and transfats ,i knew the ccc-rap before and dont give a SSShit about the catholic church , you were a monkey brain when you were born and you still are

99 percent has been rebutted right here you retard
but your so thick you possably didnt notice

see the absurdity you keep going on about religion, then say even the cthotonic church accepts evolution[those religious nutters dont have a clue about evolution either ya numb nutt]

* god reveals new facts to me
here is the lastest*

Aha, it seems that now UOG is hearing voices. Some people used
to hear voices and think they were prophets. Now we know that
schyzophrenia is pretty common! But its ok, it can be treated lol.

*if you read it you will note evolution has not been confirme*

If you check you will notice that evolution is taught as fact
at every major university, due to the mountain of evidence
available and the fact that nobody has been able to show that
it is nonsense. Feel free to try, win your nobel prize,
if you think that you can.

*by controling banking,oil,education,media,science and medicine they can sell us anything*

Ah now we believe in conspiracy theories too! Ok, so you lack
an education and are gullible. Fair enough lol.

*put up your proof of the things alowed to be developed over the last 100 years*

You are not even aware of the many things discovered and invented
in the last 100 years? Poor UOG :)

*you were a monkey brain when you were born and you still are*

Actually more like apes brains, as of course monkeys are somewhat
down the evolutionary tree. They have tails too, you only have
a coccyx left, just like apes. So us apes split off from monkeys
a fair old time ago.

Fact is that you are more closely related to a chimp, then a chimp
is to a gorilla or orang utan and with that cheerfull thought
I will end my post :)

gabby>>If you check you will notice that evolution is taught as fact
at every...win your nobel prize,if you think that you can.>>

nobel was a murderer..,his invention has killed near as many as abortion...i spit upon nobel and his death-'prize'

schools teach as they are told

>>Ah now we believe in conspiracy theories too!Ok,so you lack
an education and are gullible.Fair enough.lol.>>

peas in a pod retarded self-taught'-unionist

just because you call it conspiricy theory that invalidats it..[lol]

you done no research!
and as usual reveal you have a closed mind

you union organisers sold out the workers
[hob knobbing it up with the bosses]..while selling out those you pretend to support..stealing compulsory fees

lest we forget you lot,..set up your own party to'play'the game...your unionist/labour party mates run's the state-franchise.

>>You are not even aware of the many things discovered and invented
in the last 100 years?>>

im well aware that research has been suppressed by special-intrests
google up magnetic-drive that could put the coal unions out of buisness....the water/hydrogen power car,..cure's for cancer..but you closeted union/retards dont care about'others..only that your'own'nest gets the feathers

>>us apes split off from monkeys,a fair old time ago>>..[lol].

dont say things you cant validate with...proof..LOL

i note your good with ya mouth,but even as an..'X'-has-been/unionist your too self-serving..and you havnt any proof,..thus you dont present proof

it is sad that you feel like an ape[but; you know you]

could you concieve something bigger
/better than yourself,you could concieve god,
but you are fixated on little things,..petty things

in times past people like you swallowed the flat/earth theory,it was [people that ask questions ;that dare swim against public-opinion is where i chose to be]

[i could take the easy path like you
and try to swallow the lies..[like you have,but then would reveal only a monkey mind like yours..[living in its closed minded little box'spell checking every little,...unorigonal thought]..yet still revealing you are being just what you think you are..[a monkey brain]

as usual i see only your opinion
because you dont have fact