CJ and Spikey

- hey, go easy guys; DB's last post was actually a milestone in his OLO posting career: He apologised. Not an "I'm sorry you think I'm wrong but that's just because you are a heathen" type apology but a real, full blown one.

So, ok, he hasn't quite got round to apologising to the actual person he was so rude to - but that may come in time. The man admitted that he erred! We should all encourage him with bouquets rather than brickbats in the hope that he might be encouraged to do it again some time.

I've come to the conclusion that in BD's lexicon lying - like sinning - is something other people do. I honestly don't think that he considers it lying: - its the end not the means that he looks to. Seriously. Otherwise there is simply no explanation for how a person who has their untruths consistently, publicly and embarrassingly pointed out, can keep repeating the same behaviour so shamelessly and unrepentantly.

However, glad I've caught up with you CJ - and to you to, Spikey - to wish you all the best of the season - whatever it's called.

Dear Belly
with your background and knowledge of scripture..I'm sure you can answer those questions for yourself mate.
Failing that.. put those questions in the form of a google query and you will find many and varied opinions I'm sure.

Mine is but one of them. Only your own heart and the witness of the Holy Spirit will tell you which is correct.

Scripture says this, quoting our Lord.

"Behold..I stand at the door and knock, to him who opens I will come in"

If we hear the knock but don't open the door..where does this logically leave us?

Have a heartwarming time with all your family tonight and tomorrow.
Blessings... "joy to the world"

Belly,
Ignorance of Christian truth leads to false conclusions. Christians believe in a righteousness that is only expressed in the Lord Jesus Christ. Other behaviours are already condemned, as some already expressed on this topic. You yourself condemn those that practise such things. Right behaviour is judged against the teachings and the demonstrated life of Christ.

It is obvious you do not understand spiritual truth and expect a physical life after death by your statement. "That Christians one day all go to heaven? Be a bit crowded wouldn't it?"

If you believe extolling the virtues of goodness is a life of slavery, then you are currently captive to a slavery of leser values

Oh Boazy, you old curmudgeon. I know you made a dill of yourself, that was obvious for anybody who has English comprehension skills, so I won’t rub it in.

But what I do take issue with, is that while I have no problem being counted with the likes of CJ and Pericles, you still don’t realise that I do not use the term Islamophobe (ic) or (ia). You have just categorised us all into one and think that I (as 3rd in the list) am interested in shutting down discussion by using such terms. I think this is grievous error on your part.

Since this is Christmas, I have a small confession to make and it may come as a bit of shock to you. You may want to sit down. I don’t consider myself an Islamic apologist, in fact I don’t like Islam. I like it far less than I do Christianity. I loathe the way most Islamic countries treat their women and the way they treat their citizens generally.

Another thing I seriously dislike though, is your (and ‘your mob’) labelling me as an some sort of apologist because I don’t like the way you denigrate them, using their religion against them while simultaneously promoting yours as some sort of better alternative. To me it is a case of ‘pick my religion, it’s a little less medieval’. What I cannot stand is that usually you will take some sort of scriptural dump at the end your posts as a kind of half-assed attempt to evangelise.

....contd

It may seem to you (and ‘your mob’) that I am some sort of Islamic apologist because I don’t comment much against our very few Muslim commentators, but only because I don’t want my voice added to yours and ‘your mobs’. There is far enough crowing and frothing at the mouth and quoting of scripture in those threads for me to ever want to be a part of that. I do want to change some attitudes, in real life, and your brand of argument does not strike me as productive. You and your mob will forever be preaching to the choir with your attitude. I am however prepared to treat Muslims as humans and have them treated as equals under the law, with freedom of religion and all that. But no further. I would very much like to open honest dialogues with Muslims, but that is not going to happen around here. There are very few that comment on these pages. No mystery as to why of course.

And don’t expect me to believe you about Surah bloody 9, I will meet them and talk to them as humans. I know people are far more than their scriptural background. I know this because just about all the so-called Christians I have read on these pages are so far away from the example of Jesus I was taught in years gone by, that I KNOW scripture doesn’t govern behaviour. It’s only there to justify what you think is right at the time. We can strengthen our systems of law in a reasonable manner without running around like Henny bloody Penny saying they’re about to take over.

But as for religion, you guys really are on the snout. All of you.

Merry Christmas.

Bugsy,
What does the Merry Christ mas mean to you?