BOAZ.

I'm not your mate. Never will be if you hold those Christian views you write about.

Boaz,

It seems Jesus teachings to you are a convenience sometimes they are totally rejected if an equality is provided to Hispanic in the US.
(isn't that Jesus teachings as well?)

Can you make up your mind?

PS: Jesus (pbuh) was a dark Skin Jewish guy whose language was not English. How is the Klan, Koaz Kavid? (Just stirring:))

Peace,

Dear Holyness,

promise me that you will read the following 5. Follow link to read the other 5. JC did not know these truths of our humanity either, but I don’t to go there- lest it sends you into another evangelical spin out…god help us all here on OLO..

5 THINGS EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT RACE (USA context, but relevant here as well)

Link - http://www.pbs.org/race/001_WhatIsRace/001_00-home.htm

Our eyes tell us that people look different. No one has trouble distinguishing a Czech from a Chinese. But what do those differences mean? Are they biological? Has race always been with us? How does race affect people today?

There's less - and more - to race than meets the eye:

1. Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies, like the Greeks, did not divide people according to physical distinctions, but according to religion, status, class, even language. The English language didn't even have the word 'race' until it turns up in 1508 in a poem by William Dunbar referring to a line of kings.

2. Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait or even gene distinguishes all the members of one so-called race from all the members of another so-called race.

3. Human subspecies don't exist. Unlike many animals, modern humans simply haven't been around long enough or isolated enough to evolve into separate subspecies or races. Despite surface appearances, we are one of the most similar of all species.

4. Skin color really is only skin deep. Most traits are inherited independently from one another. The genes influencing skin color have nothing to do with the genes influencing hair form, eye shape, blood type, musical talent, athletic ability or forms of intelligence. Knowing someone's skin color doesn't necessarily tell you anything else about him or her.

5. Most variation is within, not between, "races." Of the small amount of total human variation, 85% exists within any local population, be they Italians, Kurds, Koreans or Koori’s. About 94% can be found within any continent. That means two random Koreans may be as genetically different as a Korean and an Italian

F.H. I'm not against 'equality' for people of hispanic heritage.

I'm against the use of that language/cultural group for base political purposes.

The Democrats policies are not about equality they are about ascendency.

If I was in Mexico, I'd be adamant that the Mexican cultural and language heritage be protected from any 'white/English' growing immigrant group trying to change that, and for the same reasons.

I left the Klan last week :)

Lluvitar.. "mate" in the 'you' sense..

C.J. and RANIER.... as I've labored before, we ARE all members of the human race.. you guys are building a straw man there.

The point I'm making is that linguistic/cultural/tribal differences DO create challenges in the socio political arena.

Good grief.. Raniers oft mentioned 'aboriginality' and resistance to assimilation is adequate evidence of the 'tribal' aspect.

If we are truly ONE...then why not just merge :) as I made a special discussion about.

Why am I labelled a racist when I actually AGREE that there is no genetic basis for distinguishing race, (apart from the small things like eye, nose shape and skin color etc) the thing which causes problems is the genetic CONNECTION between tribes, the sense of 'us' and 'them' and the cultural differences which reinforce this.

Its not me who is the racist here :) I want to treat all the same. 'The same' has to have a reference point. I suggest that 'reference point' is the Australian culture.

You're a lost cause BD, really, you just don't get it do you.
Perhaps you should return to Borneo where you don't have to deal with your own white Christian guilt about racism.

Ranier...and I'll ponder your sense of confused identity :)

I dispute that I don't 'get it'.... I actually do, but my views are clearly at odds with yours, but thats ok.

I think you are so desperate to 'pigeon' hole me in to a racist slot to help your own struggle, but you know deep down I'm not racist in the sense of its definition. I neither regard non 'my' mob as genetically inferior, nor do I treat them 'less' well based on their race.

I am promoting a view which says don't treat my sense of social and cultural identity LESS well than others wish to be treated.

If you maintain that I should not have any sense of 'cultural' idenity then I suggest you jump on the phone and start ringing every 'ethnic' group which has a 'racial' identifier and tell them that they are racists and to lose the racist baggage which suggests they are 'different' from everyone else.

Its pretty simple really.
cheers.