David F I think we have a different definition of 'lust'.

I don't equate it with sexual desire..but with "improper" sexual desire.

I guess it comes back to the individual a bit.

You said:

"In my view a healthy lust is great. I lust for my wife and for other women. I don't do anything about the lust for other women, but I see nothing wrong in having the feeling."

Well.. as Jesus said "if a man lusts after a woman he has already committed adultery with her in his heart"

The Lord knows our hearts..and perhaps if wifey was not around, or.. if we knew she could not catch us.. and the other party is willing.....who knows where we might go?

You don't 'do' anything about the feeling you have for other women.....
but you did :) you felt it..and obviously if your words mean anything..it sounds like you sympathetically entertain the idea of fooling around with them.

I'm also guilty of being aware of sexually attractive females. But I also know that to sympathetically entertain such ideas is wrong..so I don't dwell on it.

My life experience tells me that when you know the person you love is thinking "Oh..I'd love to hump that person" or something like that.. you won't be happy.. unless you are unique :)

I still don't agree that you 'lust' after your wife.. that is normal desire, appropriately chanelled.

You wrote:

"Well.. as Jesus said "if a man lusts after a woman he has already committed adultery with her in his heart""

Dear Polycarp:

The above is part of the outrageous nonsense in Christianity. Jesus was terribly wrong if he did say that. The difference between thinking of doing something and doing something is tremendous. That is one of the many nasty statements in the New Testament which create an inordinate sense of guilt. It is absolute bilge.

david f,

In the early centuries of the current era, erotic dreams where a real concern for Christians. Sin in thought applied even in sleep.

"Yuyutsu or anybody else – What is the definition of a god? What qualities makes something a god?" - EasyTimes

Since you wrote "god" with a small 'g' and preceded it with an "a", then there are a multitude of definitions around, all subject to individual taste: I personally would not bother too much about it, but if so inclined, you are welcome to play this game of checking whether or not Zeus falls within your favourite definition.

But if you refer to God, then no definition is possible and no quality or combination of qualities whatsoever can make anything God (well of course, God is not a thing!).

All I can give you here are methods to tell what is NOT God:

* If *it* is something, then *it* is not God.
* If you can positively attribute any qualities to *it* (including even "existence"), then *it* is not God.
* If there is anything besides *it* (including yourself!), then *it* is not God.
* If you have a concept about *it*, then all you have is a concept - rather than God.

Oliver wrote:

"In the early centuries of the current era, erotic dreams where a real concern for Christians. Sin in thought applied even in sleep."

Dear Oliver,

Thanks for that. Christianity seems to have a lot of archaic beliefs coming from a time where people confused dreams with reality, equated thinking of doing somethingwith doing it and believd in demons.

Polycarp quoted something about demons from the NT. When I asked him if he believed in demons he didn't answer.I will ask him again.

Dear Polycarp,

You have cited a passage referring to driving out demons. Do you believe in demons? If you don't why do you cite the passage?

davidf decries demons
thus would decry angels

as hard as it is to accept
they are perfectly valid

we have physical deformities made'perfect'with'plastic'surgery
but no matter how'perfect'[outside]
at death our inside[spirit]alone remains

some spirits are quite beastly[well deserving of being described as demons]

think of wolves in human form[much like athiests ganging up in packs here]

we see the vitriol cast forth from their lips[on the spitiual level,we attract more of what we eminate[more shall be given]

had athiests 2 de sight they would feel their anger attracts demons to feed of the anger[in the'heat'of the moment demons come to warm their selves[feed]from your negative eminations[emmisions]

it is reminded that our flesh form formed in two FLAT halves
they curved arround and joined at the'midline'[we also have the left brain controling the right side of our body]

the signs are there for people to realise

each person is spiritually a marrage[think of it as the ultimate debate cure]two opposing spirits need to prove their theory
thus unite into one flesh[you/me etc]

demons[and angels]are spirit forms of their relitive groupings,its more complicated than can be explained here[read swedenberg]

anyhow our freewill comes from the input of these angels/demons]
our acts resolve their debate[i[you]are chosing with every thought
to enact it or suppress it

[our lives end when the debate has its clear victor
[or the debate fails resolution[far more common]

it touches into who is too blame[the angel,me or the demon]

regardless this is the spirit that animates us all by gods love [uncondoitional love of both sides]

and we the'new'entity created from this spi-ritual mar-rage

well may you say the jinn dont egsist
but think

it is only by their wispering it into your mind
that you know it is so

you cant validate nor prove a negative
but by judging the tree by its fruit

by our deeds do we reveal who our works are serving to re unite us with
and in which realm

ignore the bad
love the good[god]you cant go wrong

when our bodies are disolved our heart reveal our inner true being
who we served