Polycarp wrote:

"I wish to emphasize that ultimately,

a) our attire should reflect a committment to much deeper values than carnal or transitory pleasure."

So the string that you started has produced a sermon.

We humans are transitory and carnal. My clothing is not a platform to express my opposition to racism, militarism, destruction of the environment and belief in nonsense religion and nonsense ideology. My clothing doesn't even reflect my preference for critical thinking or love for nature.

My clothing keeps me warm, covers me up sufficiently so I don't get arrested and feels comfortable. If it also makes this 83 year old body exhibit my interest in the carnal and inspire female lust WHOOPEE!

I think you are a decent and good man imprisoned in the labyrinth of a mind numbing, sense corroding and silly making religion.

Dear Polycarp,

When you started this string you wrote:

"This is not a troll :) but mean't to explore the serious issue of the differences in male and female attire."

Definition of a troll: Fish by trailing a baited line behind a boat.

Then you produced a sermon on clothing.

"I wish to emphasize that ultimately,

a) our attire should reflect a committment to much deeper values than carnal or transitory pleasure.
b) We need to always resist pressure from fashion zarrs to conform us to anything of that nature. (carnal/transitory)"

You drew us into discussion so you could produce your sermon. We were the fish you trolled. You were dishonest in denying it was a troll. However, I really hadn't heard of anybody mention zarrs since I left my native planet of aipotu. Do you come from there, too?

Now David.. you already know my position so it's hardly a troll.

We have explored the issue, made some progress... and it is important that I as the thread starter make a definitive position statement.

I believe that the differences in attire owe more to fashion exploitation and sexual permissiveness than anything else. But it saddens me that most women seem to desire a deeper relationship than a one night stand, yet the attire many of them wear, even those who want a 'good man'.. seem to say the opposite.

So, such a thread as this is socially important in spite of your opinion about it being a troll.

How do you get 'a sermon' from my 2 point summary?

blessings

Porky: << ..such a thread as this is socially important.. >>

Only in the mind of a bible-bashing Christian Taliban wowser. Nobody else seems to have regarded the topic as 'socially important' at all.

David f is correct: Porky's opening claim that the topic was not a troll is patently false, particularly in the light of his subsequent sermonising.

Typical, really.

"But it saddens me that most women seem to desire a deeper relationship than a one night stand, yet the attire many of them wear, even those who want a 'good man'.. seem to say the opposite."

In most cases the cloting choices David is refering to are not saying anything about a persons preferences for relationships. David's opinion of those cloting choices does say a lot about where his mind dwells.

R0bert

David! old school mate! very old. This is the 21 century! wake me up when September ends.

EVO