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Uncovered women. Fashion or exploitation.

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This is not a troll :) but mean't to explore the serious issue of the differences in male and female attire.

Last night at Bible study we looked at this issue in the afterglow of a camp where the subject was 'Purity' with God, the opposite sex and humanity generally.

But the more I pondered this, the issue of the differences between male and female attire came more into focus.

Let's take some examples.

MALE. (to a degree this is job dependant.)
Generally covered up neck to ankle except during hot weather. I don't know why...it just 'is'.

FEMALE. (Again.. job dependant to a degree)
Generally showing a lot more skin, cleavage (even in business suits) and leg.

Ok.. lets transpose this into a 'Church' situation :)

Many girls roll up with very skimpy clothes. Shoulders, cleavage, legs all clearly visible.

Now..lets change the gender. "men roll up with half their bums hanging out" (I observe that females find a mans butt something of an attraction...perhaps like men feel about womens breasts)
Along with.. sleeveless T-shirts..or T-shirts which show a good chunk of chest and arm.. at least as much as the girls do.

We could also make this the local Rotary or Lions meeting, or even Parents and Teachers meeting.

I hazard a guess that 'butt cleavage' would create a bit of an outrage/outcry.. a disturbance at least.

SOOOO... the question. WHY? has womens fashion sense gone in a 'show more' direction and mens not?

Who has driven this? Was it 'orchestrated'... managed.. is it a result of some kind of economic exploitation..convincing women that they must show a bit more next season? (so they feel shabby in last seasons clothes and go and BUY more for next?)
Posted by Polycarp, Thursday, 30 October 2008 8:08:26 AM
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God, another cover-up post from Poly. Seriously, you're such a muslim.

Women show legs and cleavage cause our legs and cleavage are part of our bodies. Rather nice parts. We can wear burkhas or we can wear bikinis, we can wear bikinis under our burkhas, we can wear whatever the hell we want.

And so may you. If you honestly believe women would like to look at your butt crack, show it off Poly.
Posted by Veronika, Thursday, 30 October 2008 9:57:55 AM
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Dear Veronika,

Polycarp does not have a butt crack. He practices immaculate evacuation.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 30 October 2008 10:31:13 AM
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"He practices immaculate evacuation."

Now *that* was funny.
Posted by chainsmoker, Thursday, 30 October 2008 11:04:10 AM
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Dear Polycarp,

If you look at any newstand rack of
magazines, you can't help but notice
that on the whole, what's presented on
the covers of the popular magazines
differs greatly between the way men
and women are presented.

Women are usually presented in far more
revealing poses, and as sex objects,
while men are presented as more
powerful images, and not as unclothed.

This is part of what sells, I guess.
And that's the business that the industry
is in.

Exploitation? Undoubtedly. But the bottom line
is - getting the big bucks - marketing what
sells.

Take most women's magazines - the unrealistic images
of super thin air-brushed models that are presented.
Magazines like 'Vogue' that encourage women to
spend outrageous amounts of money on clothes, shoes,
handbags, et cetera.

Magazines like 'Cosmopolitan' that tell women that
getting married is a woman's most important goal. That
if you lose weight - you'll gain confidence.

'Marie Claire,' tells women that they should freak out
about aging at the age of 30.

The list goes on and on.
So, it's no wonder that SOME women feel compelled to follow
the fashion trends.

Most women, however, take all this media hype with a grain
of salt, and chose what they feel is appropriate to them.

Fashion, is what it has always been, a matter of personal
choice. (And budget). Sure, we've all made some awful
mistakes (outrageously high heels - and an 'Afro' hair
style - were two of mine). But on the whole, most women
I know - tend to wear what suits them, and what they feel
comfortable wearing.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 30 October 2008 11:34:56 AM
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Porky once again demonstrates his very odd attitude to the human body.

<< "men roll up with half their bums hanging out" (I observe that females find a mans butt something of an attraction...perhaps like men feel about womens breasts) >>

I don't know about fundy Christian women, but absolutely no woman I know finds "plumber's cleavage" in the slightest bit attractive. Tight buns, yes - arse crack, no.

Veronika: << Seriously, you're such a muslim >>

Indeed, which is why Porky has attracted the descriptor of 'Christian Taliban' on various occasions in this forum. The idea that exposure of the human body is necessarily sexual is something that Christian fundies certainly share with Muslim fundies.

david f: << Polycarp does not have a butt crack. He practices immaculate evacuation >>

Very funny indeed.

Porky: << MALE...
Generally covered up neck to ankle except during hot weather >>

Er, are you talking about Australia or Malaysia? In the Australia where I live, many men are known to expose their legs by wearing "shorts".

Weird.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 30 October 2008 11:46:37 AM
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