Gibo,

As noted in a parrellel post, the Creator was subject to the second law of thermodynamics and owing to increased entropy had to rest on the seventh day.

Herein, said Creator, might be an alien terraforming the planet, but certainly not a god.

Guess that puts Genesis on par with the Hitcker's Guide. Besides, surely God would not create a world He knew, in Ford Prefect's time, would be destoyed by Vogon constructor fleets.

Seriously, though, besides the Creator depicted being subject to the physics laws of this universe. Adam and Eve were Carbon-based. Carbon is not created on Earth or on Sol; but was a result on an earlier generation star, over five billion years ago.

In other words, Steel Mann, some people get sick. Of those, some people get better while others die. Of these, some are Christians, who are praying for healing. Do they get better at a different rate to atheists? Are they released from pain through death at a different rate?

Presumably, god prefers the prayers of westerners, as he does tend to save American christians far more often than he saves African christians.

Oliver! You dont miss a trick, do ya. SMILE

EVO

*Like one of my elders says "just accept it as truth, and dont let the brain take control".*

Sheesh Gibo, that is exactly why I am nervous of having born again
Xtians anywhere near parliament, legislating how I should lead
my life. Its exactly why we need the separation of church
and state. If you don't want your brain to take control, that
is your lifestyle choice, but keep the rest of us out of it!

"In other words, Steel Mann, some people get sick. Of those, some people get better while others die. Of these, some are Christians, who are praying for healing. Do they get better at a different rate to atheists? Are they released from pain through death at a different rate?" - Veronika

Actually Veronika, they do. Studies have actually proven that those people who believe in the power of prayer do get better quicker when they're sick. It's not proof of the existance of a God, but it is evidence that having a faith works. As I previously said, I am skeptical of some claims but I don't believe all can be dismissed as rubbish.

Gibo speaks from experience, I speak from experience, the athiest speaks from lack of experience.

Thanks, EVO. Enjoy your posts too.

Home Tutor,

"I think all will agree we have yet to see any evidence of humans having baby apes." - HT

"Hey, Hey We're The Moneys!"

The human fetus typically develops a prehensile tail at four months. Some humans are born with tails.

Six month old humans can distinguish between faces of individual monkeys, better tha adult humans. Critical for social adaptation to the troupe. Around nine months, young human primates become imprinted with human primate faces and loose the capacity to intimately recognize their genetic counsins.

Like it or not, there are primates on both sides of the ape enclosures at the zoo.

"Just tryn' to be factual and not put anybody down."