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Any evidence that the Bible Genesis account isnt the truth?

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home tutor, Thursday, 30 October 2008 4:57:49 AM

I have to wonder if the people who home tutor their kids are a majority of fundamentalist christian types who refuse to let their children have any contact with outsiders who could challenge their beliefs and brainwashing. Indoctrination of religion by parents to their young children really is child abuse.

"During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after doing its duty in but a lazy and indolent way for 800 years, gathered up its halters, thumbscrews, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood. Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry." (Mark Twain)
Posted by human interest, Thursday, 30 October 2008 10:42:17 AM
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Using the same logic as many of the posters above, is there any "proof" that any of the other numerous ancient Creation Myths from other cultures aren't true as well?

Where is the evidence that the Genesis account IS the truth?
The onus on Creationists isn't to disprove other accounts but to prove their own.

The Bible "proves" nothing except that the Bible itself exists or does Harry Potter exist because a book says he does.

If you accept the total infallibility of Bible logic then you must concede that snakes and donkeys can talk and people can fly, or is interpretation merely selective?
Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 30 October 2008 11:12:23 AM
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Hi Celivia.
I will get to that Green River Formation etc:)
Im just a bit slow on this thread.

I understand that the Creationists are doing their best, even if they dont get into all of the pro-evolution data.

I should think it would grate against the faith to overly examine things from the evolution point of view because of the anti-Christness of the theory.

Im not in Creationist ministry.
They do a good job in supporting the Bible belief.

I dont like tags. For me tags change things somewhat.

Medical researchers see something new and they say "Oooohhh"...we had better put a name on that"...and suddenly a new disease or infirmity has a name and POWER.
Spiritual law and satans authority is connected to words and words are so important. They have power to bless or to curse.
God Spoke it into existance when he said "Let there be light".
Words of Power.

Didnt we ever get complex with tags?
I keep things simple and just believe the Genesis account is the truth...and my portion of the Holy Spirit is happy.
To me The Word is to be read and just...believed.

Like one of my elders says "just accept it as truth, and dont let the brain take control".

Thats probably a bit unusual to the non-believer...but if you bring the brain into a matter quite often you will dissect, analyse and the whole faith thing is going to end up kaput.

We should be happy to know that the little mouse in the school science lab is alive and well and doesnt need a scalpel stuck into him so we can find out how his inner parts work.
God Created ' Mr/Mrs. Mouse' and that mouse has feelings and doesnt need to die in the science lab in macabre experiments.

Originally people went straight to God for their Healings.

The charismactic movement in 2008 is back in that area of Divine Healings through the laying-on-of-hands.
Posted by Gibo, Thursday, 30 October 2008 11:46:16 AM
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Gibo: "Like one of my elders says "just accept it as truth, and dont let the brain take control"."

Jesus H Christ.
Posted by Veronika, Thursday, 30 October 2008 11:52:38 AM
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Gibo,

I do like you description of Mr/ Mrs Mouse. After hearing that I couldn't use a mouse trap anymore, although I don't need one, I have two cats.

I do beleive in God's healing and he has many ways performing healing. I have sought healing through prayer in ways you describe. Sometimes it happened, sometimes it didn't. On one occassion it was almost instant. One of the ways God heals is through giving man the knowledge to invent medicines. Sometimes God's healing for a Christian is through death. After all, these bodies we have now are only intended to be temporary. I am however skeptical of reports I hear of people getting out of wheelchairs and walking such as those at Benny Hinn's meetings. I've never heard a substantiated report on a person who was known to be confined to a wheelchair and is now walking. It is rumoured that Benny Hinn puts able bodied people in wheelchairs and then prays for them and they walk. It also needs to be pointed out that in the Bible, Jesus never healed mass crowds of people, only individuals.

On the original topic Gibo, the Creation ministry, I think its now called the Creation Research Foundation, previously Creation Science, but they changed it to avoid confusion with Christian Science (Mary Baker Eddy's cult). They have some interesting stuff, but much of it is aimed at the scientist. A bit too heavy for me. How God created this world is not of major importance to me, it's the final result.
Posted by Steel Mann, Thursday, 30 October 2008 12:29:49 PM
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Gibo! Here's a little story that's factual. One night I was walking down the street of my home town in NSW, and night mass was underway. Being curious, I walked in, then sat down to listen. The preacher, who thought I,d not know the code of commutation, and began telling a story about me and went into lengths about how I just walked in off the streets uninvited I guess, into his flock.

I sat patiently until he had finished, then the preacher asked me and two others to come to the front to receive the blessings of god. Fine! seems all right so far, when it was my turn for the hand to be touched on my head, and he received an electrical shock upon contact.

Well! he jumped back with horror on his face, (little did he know, it was static from the carpet on the floor ) and told me to get out with saying the devil is in me!

as I walked out, all the people in the room parted like moses with sea, and at last glance, the preacher was looking at his hand.

If that's not naivety, it was cruel and hurtful.

P\S Gibo. The world is simply overpopulated. That,s from your last post.

EVO
Posted by EVO, Thursday, 30 October 2008 12:35:35 PM
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