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Malaysia on the brink - Lessons for Australia

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The Malaysian blogger, Raja Petra Kamarudin, has been detained for two years on the charge of “insulting Islam”. His crime? Promising to be a "good, non-hypocritical Muslim." In a rather strange statement he blames the severe problems facing Malaysia on Muslims and denounces them for not being true Muslims.

The fact is that Malaysia, once a cross of moderate Islam and passive multiculturalism, is turning into a racist-religist state that is openly persecuting non-Muslims. There are clear signs that the social contract between the native Malays and minorities groups is falling apart. Citizens of Indian and Chinese descent, in particular, are blamed for any and all problems. Once again, we see hardline Islamic doctrine taking control of a country in the name of a religion that openly denigrates others. Same parts of Malaysia are adopting sharia law. They already have reeducation camps for apostates and now we see malay-muslim majority moving to embrace the same two-fold policy that is tipical of radical Islam (and rarely opposed by moderates): These are: 1. Blame others for all problems, and 2. Proclaim the answer is more pure Islam (whatever that is).

Unfortunately, Malaysia is moving in that direction and a possible ethnic cleasing is not impossible.

Here is an article on this from the always excellent Harry's Place:
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/09/23/defend-raja-petra-kamarudin/

Questions: Will India and China step in to protect their minorities? Will boatloads of new refugees be sailing south? Will Indonesia go the same way? How will a hostile Islamic country on strategic waterways affect this part of the world? What will Singapore do? How will Australia handle one or two radical Islamic states as close neighbors? Will Australia stand up for human rights? Will Australia learn that multiculturalism is divisive and a recipe for disaster
Posted by kactuz, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 3:51:03 AM
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HI Kactuz
trying to understand Malaysian politics sometimes requires the skills of a houdini :)

I looked at the organizations which called for his detention.. the only thing you need to know here is:

"Are they religious arms of UMNO" or.. "PAS" it is highly unlikely that they are PAS because kamarudin is clearly an Anwar supporter and Anwar's background is PAS.

Thus, I conclude that this is what might be termed 'UMNO in damage control' and in typical fashion they use the 'religious' card to win the hand.

They seem to be trying to appeal to the "moderate" or aka "UMNO" supporting Muslims and trying to marginalize the PAS element in a way which makes it difficult for them to criticize.. after all PAS is 'radical' in it's Islam so.. simple solution-claim Kamarudin is "insulting Islam".

But this can be better understood as people with the political power and economic privilege defending territory :)
That's my take on it anyway.
Posted by Polycarp, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 6:56:22 AM
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To much of this... all Australia can do is build her defences.

The whole of the region is beginning to crumble with the arms build-up and the Islamic stirrings.

In fact the whole of world peace is begining to crumble.

Australia needs national service, guns for a citizens army, a decentralisation of the population for a citizens army...food, fuel, medical storage away from its cities.

Theres no turning back now...to a world that once was quieter.

The Holy Bible endtimes are almost commenced.

Read Matthew chapter 24, Luke chapter 21 and John's Revelation.
...and if this rattles you, you need Jesus in your life.
No one's going to get peace without Him in their lives.
Posted by Gibo, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 8:37:31 AM
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Gibo
This was sent to my office. I thought it may interest you=

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In it's fullest form, it is a
complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components.

The religious component is a beard for all of the other
components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to
Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. Here's how it works.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in
any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a
peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is
the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket
chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for
failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- Muslim 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the rulin
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government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The
ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire
world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings.

Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and
threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim
sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and
ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing
(genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on
infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic
cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
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100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as
in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust
by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against
my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my
cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the
world, and all of us against the infidel.

-- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100%
Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live
in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they
live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos.

There are no national courts nor schools nor non-Muslim religious facilities.
In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large.

The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even
associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore,
in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more
power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their
birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddists, and
Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The
Historical Roots and Contemporary Threa
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