Kactuz,Pale ,

Food for thought and maybe food for action ?

Enabling moderate Muslims to live in peace all over the world will be a difficult task .

The surety of "going to heaven" for killing one's neighbour if they appear to have transgressed some ancient edict is the surety that MUST be removed from all religions .

Doubt must be put into all religious fundamentalists minds on their heavenly future should they continue to believe that death of the opposition is the best way .

Our Christian Lord said "thou shalt NOT kill" and what are we busy doing, in particular one born again powerfull Christian - just that .

It is no wonder that many young people do not trust the religions of their brain washed Elders all over the world.

What if we did nothing to improve national defence...and China or Indonesia took advantage of a sudden change in the military climate?

Both China and Indonesia are building bigger and more modern armies and Australia, more or less, fiddles with her defences.

"Thou shalt not kill" is a solid commandment but does it mean we are to be weakling simps and NOT protect our women and children from being raped and murdered, to NOT protect our wonderful land from an enemy establishing genocidal re-education camps on Australian soil?
NO!
I look at the Book of Nehemiah and him getting Gods Help to rebuild the walls of the city against Jerusalems enemies.

OZ Defence is to do that...to rebuild against our enemies and potential enemies.
To do less is cowardly and vegetable.
If Im ever called up...Im going.
Thats how I will show my love for the women and children and old folks and the young people of my country.

To protect them is to show our love.

Born again christians have fought in so many wars since Christ went up to Heaven.
We will do it again here, if our government calls.

Thanks for those statistics PALE.
Im going to keep them.
They are some of the best Ive seen for a while:)

Islam is a violent ideology. A good example is Pakistan.

The difference between India (India is having trouble with their very own Indian Muslims) and Pakistan is their religion. Pakistanis are ethnically the same as Indians. Pakistan is founded on the Islamic ideal of having shariah law and the full range of Islamic practices. When the Muslims killed off the non-Muslims in Pakistan, the Muslims are now killing each other.

One of the ways for Australia to be a peaceful country is to do the politically correct thing. Stop Muslim immigration into the country. Just as Saudi Arabia and many Islamic countries make no apologies in not allowing non-Muslim religions to be propagated in their countries, non-Muslim countries should do likewise.

Secular Muslims in Western countries should be encouraged to leave Islam altogether. Just as the in India and Iran, many of the rational Muslims have left Islam altogether. In fact two fantastic websites are run by ex-Muslims (Iranians Indians) who know the Koran and the Islamic ideology inside out. These websites really inform the Muslims and non-Muslims alike about the practices of Islam. Since most Muslims can't understand Arabic, they become enlightened about the truth of their "religion".

http://www.faithfreedom.org/index.htm
http://www.islam-watch.org/

Somebody should forward PALE&IF's latest Islamophobic propaganda to the "Muslim leaders of Australia" with whom they claim to have a close working relationship. Mind you, I'll bet they have PALE&IF's measure already.

Better still, PALE&IF should employ real experts on Islam like Kactuz or Porkycrap to negotiate on their behalf.

PALE also advocates the death penalty for Australians who sell drugs.