Nicky

This is the second time you have accused us of going off post just to suit your self.
Again I have copied YOUR post where YOU went off topic

Belly I was right about the Whale and the Government its as simply as that. What I dont like is I am pretty sure you wouldnt have started this thread if you had known the real facts.
I hope I am wrong

Antiseptic you have a valid point that is why I said it was unwise to re enter the thread.
I do however think Nicky has a right to her opinions even if I often disagree with her.
Again Yabby is just what he appears to be an Aussie who has views most country people share.
About that whale, not that I want to divert the threads new direction.
Sydney Medea tells us a new whale is in trouble of our coast.
Caught in a net it may die while I am unsure how we can help I am amused by the picture that will not leave my mind of Morris and Kevin swimming madly trying to cut the thing free from the whale

Belly
It is sad to hear another whale is in trouble. We have a great deal to answer for I suppose when it comes to what we do to Animals.
Pls remember I did tell you the facts about the whale. Good you opended a thread about a topic that was not just about people.
It is to your credit. Now you have had time to hear the other side of the story what do you feel about the way in which the matter of the whale was handled.
Do you have an opinion perhaps on how we can improve things.

Belly, and Antiseptic, I REALLY hear what you're saying. And I fully respect your rights to disagree with me too. Antiseptic, I am well used to the threats of "lawyers", but they remain conspicuous by their silence.

Maybe it's some sort of personal perversity that I continue.

I find it supremely ironic that PALE claims to be "no fool" given some of the material posted on these threads. But have you noticed? On top of the threats, the feigned outrage and the attitude, a new strain of patronizing has now crept in that no-one else knows anything about government - or anything else for that matter.

For your information, PALE, it is, believe it or not, widely known that those terms are used in the "industry" (if you regard sentient beings as an "industry", as you clearly do), my point was that they are terms not commonly used by animal advocates. And what does it really matter if MLA handed "accreditation rights" to feedlots"? What material difference is it going to make? What will it change? Absolutely nothing so there is little point in making a big deal of it (much like the Cole enquiry and the apapthy that attached to that).

You do not type so much about "animal welfare" as about your imagination, PALE and HKM, and the material at the HKM website does not appear to be especially current (I think it has been there since about 2003, has it not?).

And finally - once and for all - no-one, including all the people you claim as your enemies, has discussed PALE with me. I simply formed my own conclusions from the information available, including your posts on this forum.

Nicky

Nicky

I am totally sick of your quest to hassle our organisation.
Unlike PETA we work with RSPCA QLD Muslim Leaders and farmers.

You do not work with people with knowledge of the industry Nicky. Neither do PETA etc.


Its simply not good enough to say- its cruel. You have to understand the background of the industry and the very real problems farmers have with the Government.

"I simply do not believe you that you are not involved with PETA and extremists."
Your obbession towards us only highlights your obbession with anybody eating using projects produced from Animals.

Yabby is correct Nicky you are totally obbessed.


The official instructions given to us are not address posts from you.- I told you that months ago.

I do not care too hoots if you THINK I should not call cattle-= stock beasts or heads. You may call them whatever you wish but you dont dicate to us.

Unlike you we also work with farmers( as was the case today) he wondered why I smiled when he mentioned beasts stock and heads. So in the end I told him.
That was the begining of a few amusing stories he told us when he was gate crashed years ago by some of your university extremists mates protesting abattoirs and farmers.

Web sites-

You are well aware of our web site and why its not changed in a while. Its none of your business but if you like I will pass your comments onto RSPCA QLD CEO who is still trying to get the web master to get around to it.

The Lady who was doing it is very ill, I do not build web sites already doing sixteen hour days working with Muslims farmers RSPCA QLD and the public.
Nor do we raise millions in donations like PETA.
RSPCA QLD are a very busy branch Nicky involved in many projects.

PALE, really. Do I care what you think, or what you believe I may be involved in? Not at all. Do I think you have clue about what you're talking about? Likewise. BTW, why did you not follow the "head office" instruction not to respond to my posts? From what I understand PALE operates from a house on the Gold Coast - WHAT Head Office?

Do I care if (live export, but not all) farmers have problems with the government? I think the biggest problem the loudest whingers have is the size of the handout. All this talk about "we work with RSPCA Queensland ... with farmers ..,. with Muslim leaders..." but absolutely nothing about what work that is.

So don't call into question the credibility of others until you have some of your own.

Nicky