Hi All

Nicky, 'Thank You' for posting the link about the whale.

Yabby and Banjo
Nice to see two farmers chatting on OLO.

Banjo re the chooks.

*I can't imagine such happening in a commercial killing facility.*

Its horrible but sadly common.
Some with two heads and extra feet etc...

Kept in the most dreadful conditions.
As I said before,they are lowered on a belt into the fire 'alive' to remove feathers.

Most come out still alive screaming and then are lowered into boiling water.
Many are still alive even after that.
From there down to have the throats slit but not right through to allow them to bleed.
All while a guy mumbles a few words etc..
I can not disclose the where abouts yet. I am sorry.

When Pamala Anderson visted Kentucy Fried chicken
to highlight the plight of these creatures all the media could talk about was her shorts and breast.
They make me so angry with their
irresponsible reoporting - but thats politics
and media play the game 'very well.'

What does the RSPCA have to say about it?

RSPCA have MOUs with DPI state Governments
to inspect these plants. If we reported it,
possibly the owners could be tipped off.

Its a well oiled system by our state Governments
which can be used for anything from
Animal Welfare to Prostitution.
We do not trust State or Federal Governments
to do their job or report honestlty
in matters regarding animal welfare.

If the public really knew the conditions
that intensive animals are kept we could fix it.
However the truth is blocked from
being revealed by the Government
and the Governments control over the media.

There` too much conflict of interest
for media outlets who often survive on
advertsing through the industry.

Imagine a country newspaper
reporting negitively
about live exports.
Wouldnt last five minutes.

(Nicky , cant release evidence just yet sorry.
Regarding RSPCA QLD and our CEO we were chatting
yesterday at our AGM.
I am very sure he would be well
aware of intentions of any enquier
by the nature of the questions.

*PALE, on the other hand, has the websites I have described earlier, and makes a habit of describing animals as "stock", "livestock" and "beasts", which are not terms generally used by genuine animal advocates*
Posted by Nicky

Well gee wiz, sorry about that boss.
I think it’s a good thing that somebody speaks in terms farmers do.
We “'are” talking about' stock and “beasts” Nicky=that are bred for the meat industry.

You’re a funny girl you really are. If it makes you happy let me know what Glenyse calls a cow.

If it’s something I feel farmers might fathom I might consider changing my evil ways just to keep the peace:)

I think, what you are really saying, is pale does not conform to ‘others’ who speak 'politically' -as you do.

Our backgrounds are very different. Mind you I have a long line of Judges Polys and lawyers in my blood line. But I reckoned Dad made more sense than any of them as a down to earth farmer. You could say no 'bull' I guess.

Re web sites. I don’t mind what others have. However we were DELIGHTED to see support Free Range Farm Animals.

I told you before re our site the situation. Pls feel free to take it over ANYTIME.

I am aware that Wirthless made...
Well Glory me, then why would the Handle with Care collation put him as head.

“What does that tell you?”

SPEAKING OF POLITICS

Wake up Nicky for the Animals Sake! WHY did Hugh Wirth ignore our invatations to meet Muslim of Australia supporting reopening plants and phasing out live exports? Why did your heroes?

They SHOULD have, ALL been sitting, at the table ,holding discussions, with the Malaysian ;Government
and Muslim Leaders of Australia regarding making Malaysia the hub of Halal meat for the world- by reopening plants in Australia to slaughter here and exporting the carcass to Malaysian ports.

Opportunities missed ....
Where the bloody hell were they!

PALE, how did prostitution get into this, for heavens sake? You really have the most staggering conspiracy theories. And unless someone is planning to lay charges over the chickens, I would suggest that you should be releasing the evidence you have to the media (depending upon how it was obtained it may not be admissible in the event of charges anyway). I would have expected that you would want to get it out there so that this operation can be exposed and shut down.

I have no idea why Wirtless became the spokesperson of Handle with Care, but I imagine that the coalition had its reasons. I have no idea either what Glenys would call a cow (most likely a "cow", I'd suggest), but, as I have pointed out, referring to animals as "stock", "livestock" and "beasts" demonstrates a lack of the empathy one usually finds in the animal advocacy movement. Even if I were in a position to take over your website, I would not do so for the reasons I have stated earlier about choosing not to be involved with your project. I don't know either why Wirthless, or anyone else, for that matter, chose not to meet with your "Muslim leaders", but as I have said before, it most likely has to do with your aggressive, bullying approach - evidenced by almost all your posts.

You should just do what you do, and let others get on with doing what they do, without constantly trying to harass and discredit them.

Nicky

Nicky

“No Nicky it’s quite the opposite but maybe that’s what you have been told. If you have,- you have been lied to.
YOU are the only one who brings this up and we will continue to defend our name in response to your attacks. I suggest you let it drop. Do not force my hand to put these letters up because it won’t help the animals and I don’t think you would be popular TBO

Re the chicken we don’t need you to tell me how to run an investigation having owned an investigation company half my life your - but thanks anyway.
You are so naive you know nothing about corruption within Government and other departments.

I call livestock stock and cattle beasts because its common term within the industry.
I have a farming background 3 generations. Its normal talk.

No wonder why farmers don’t want a bar of animal welfare groups
When you come out with this type silly complaints.

Again I say to you Nicky regardless of different strokes for different folks it would be clear to you I sit here typing about animal welfare as much as you do.

The difference between us is you do this in your spare time and I full time in conjunction with RSPCA QLD.

So again you have gone out of your way to not work towards improving animal welfare but rather to create disharmony.
That’s not helping animals.

Posts have been noticed for some time now by our Head Office. I can assure you that it isn’t appreciated by RSPCA QLD nor our lawyers or members- or Islamic Leaders who have worked hard with us for six years.
It is the only arrangement like that in Australia- or world wide for that matter so pls does not patronize me Nicky.

I am rather tired of your childish goings on. What you need to know I am no fool

You need to listen about MLA handing accreditation rights for feed lots over to feed lot owners... You didn’t know that did you>? Be honest.
Nor do many AFAIK

Hi Nicky , if live chooks being burnt can get into a thread about a whale prostitution surely can.
May I give you a tip?
It is not worth it.
It was unwise of me to re enter this thread.
But if you look you will see a very big change in my posting habits.
You can never win and it is not productive to try.
Sorry but we can not always debate animal welfare in an honest way,yet
regards

The froot loops have shut down another thread, I see. More claims of "evidence" and "lawyers" and who knows what going on in that fantastically imaginative little house on the Gold Coast.

Why do people bother responding to the rantings of lunatics, especially when they're off-topic?