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US/NATO bombers to NOT be executed

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Easy Times

You advise that DU is used because of its capacity to penetrate “modern armour” so are you suggesting that civilian casualties are merely collateral damage?

When a projectile hits armour, it evaporates and incinerates. The resulting uranium oxide dust can travel for miles and miles, spread by the wind, where it is inhaled not only by soldiers on the battlefield but also by civilians.

Depleted Uranium and DU weapons are already prohibited as Weapons of Mass Destruction under existing international conventions and treaties, including the 1925 Geneva Poison Gas Protocol.

According to an August 2002 report by the UN Sub-commission, laws which are breached by the use of DU shells include: “the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; the Charter of the United Nations; the Genocide Convention; the Convention Against Torture; the four Geneva Conventions of 1949; the Conventional Weapons Convention of 1980; and the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907, which expressly forbid employing 'poison or poisoned weapons' and 'arms, projectiles or materials calculated to cause unnecessary suffering'.

All of these laws are designed to spare civilians from unwarranted suffering in armed conflicts.

The global pollution of the atmosphere, with Depleted Uranium radioactive poison gas since 1991, is causing an epidemic of chronic illnesses, which will contribute to extensive depopulation and ecological destruction and not just for Iraqis.

This is newly defined as Omnicide. The result, an increase in death rates and decrease in birth rates.

"They're using it now, they're using it in Falluja, Baghdad is chock-a-block with DU - it's all over the place," says Major Doug Rokke (in 2004,) director of the US army's DU project in 1994-95.

And as tiny DU particles are blown across the Middle East and beyond like a radioactive poison gas, the long-term implications for the world are deeply disturbing.

The science on the destructive forces of DU on the human body and the biosphere is clear but then I guess the use of DU on the enemy is OK just as long as the radioactive dust doesn’t blow our way!
Posted by dickie, Monday, 21 July 2008 11:28:29 PM
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Jayb, you use lots of euphemisms, but what they come down to is that the US deliberately chooses to target premises knowing it is likely that civilians are present. You blame this on the Taliban and al Qaeda, but they are not the ones choosing to drop the weapons. Likewise, Israel has a long history of caring little for the civilans that may be present when targetting so-called terrorists, hence the appalling death toll in the region over the past several decades. Dressing it up as "Blue on Blue" (lovely way of saying "oops, we just killed someone on our side"), or accidental, or someone else's fault doesn't change the facts. You have made it clear by your defence of these acts that you condone them. That's shameful.
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 5:44:37 AM
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"Demonstrating against the acts of those from elsewhere who genuinely don't care 2 hoots about what we say is like demonstrating against cholera."

So you admit that the Teliban & Al Qeada target civillians but you don't care you just hate Septic Tanks (Yanks)(Antiseptic) so just blame it all on them.

What part of the Allies DO NOT deliberately target civilians? DIDN'T YOU UNDERSTAND. The restraints that are in place regarding what, where & who you can shoot at are unbelievable. It like trying to wrestle a gorilla while you are bound & tied in a sack.

The situation in Isreal/Palistine is somewhat different. Neither side cares who gets killed. The difference there is that the Palistinians deliberately target civilians at buses & restaurants, etc, while the Isrealies target a specific terrorist, if civilians are in the house then too bad, they are likely to be supporters anyway.

The handing back of the live Palistinian terrorist for a dead soldier was supposed to be seen as a guesture towards reconciliation. The Palistinians regarded it as a justification to continue the fight against the Isrealies. And they will.

Will the UN/NATO charge any of these Palistinian terrorists with Crimes against Humanity? Will you support these charges against the Palistinian terrorists? No, because, by your posts, you support them & their evil cause!
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 9:24:11 AM
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Jayb: "the Isrealies target a specific terrorist, if civilians are in the house then too bad"

I'm glad to see you agree with me. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 9:38:37 AM
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' The restraints that are in place regarding what, where & who you can shoot at are unbelievable.'

Yeah but every time the world pleads with the US to stop using cluster bombs that continue to maim and kill civillians for 30 years after the war has ended, there is a resounding NO.
Posted by Usual Suspect, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 10:18:42 AM
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Antiseptic do you support the UN/NATO charging of any Palistinian terrorists, Teliban or Al Queada with Crimes against Humanity?

Yes or No.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 10:22:17 AM
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