Boazy: << We must be clear... in WHO is criticism of certain aspects of a religion likely to stir up hate in? >>

As best as I can imagine, if I was a moderate Muslim who was reading this discussion, I think I could form a sustainable view that there's more than a few idiots out there who have an antipathy towards me because of my religious beliefs. Some of them even compare my religion with Nazism.

Obviously, such remarks that Boazy makes regularly are designed to "stir up hate" among ISLAMOPHOBES.

But even MUSLIMS know IDOTS when they see them and treat them with mercy. At least, I hope they do :)

Hell, even an idot like me knows how to spell "IDIOT".

D'oh!

CJ.. the 'form' of yours is still going strong.(irrational)

*sigh*.. will_it_never_end:)

Now..what you offered was 'an' interpetation of my post. You chose to see it as 'designed to stir up hate'. Yet, you know quite well that what I'm offering is based on Islamic documents and is supported by, in fact TAKEN FROM Islamic scholars themselves who are highly respected in the wider Muslim community.

If I was 'inventing' information such as "Mohammad had a string of little 6yr old boys which he regularly has sex with" you could absolutely charge me with 'stirring up hate'.. but if I say "Mohammad had sex with a 9 yr old girl, who he 'married' when she was six, you can only say "BD is reporting facts". Now..what people DO with those facts is their business but 'hate' is not my preferred outcome.
Informed rational Political action IS!

Clearly such things as mutilating living prisoners, torture, sex with little children, etc and then, for such a man to be described as 'The best of all mankind' are, or should be a serious concern for any community irrespective of whether such values are evident IN that community 'here and now'.(in this social context)

What one must do, is look at the broad manifestations of these values in that community world wide, and see if those values are in fact manifest when such people have power. From this, if the answer is in the affirmative, then reasonably, a 'non-them' community would need to take pre-emptive action to avert such a catastrophe coming upon themselves.

The pre-emptive action should be in the form of policy change which restricts entry to this country and discourages the growth of such values by restricting the possibility of them being taught in public schools or preached.

It surely should NOT be in 'hatred' of a personal jingoistic or knee jerk nature.

Would you support a ban on Surah 9:29 and 30 and other 'anti Christian/Jew verses being preached in Australia?

How about a ban on Romans Ch 1? (yes, we are watching for that too)

kactuz,

The reason it was rejected was because it did not comply with council zoneing.
Many people who objected said they would have done so if it was a Catholic School.
I am tired of some screaming racism because they want to break the rules and bully special favours.

The rest of of us must comply with council. They should have checked with council first.

Also if the majority of people in the shire dont want it then the people have spoken.

I think ALL kids should be schooled together and the Government are creating a HUGE problem.

Then again when does the Government ever do anything else.

Australia is not a muslim country and Ausies dont want it changed.

Otherwise we will all have to go to ME and take over- same thing.

Leave us old Aussies in peace I say and go live at Chistmass Island all together at get woken up with that dreadful music and screaming at 4am.
If anyone ever turns up into my area screaming at 4am to get up a p-ray there wont be a second time.
Leave the hard working people at Camdem to sleep and live their lives.
Now I have a good relashonship with muslims but we MUST not allow this country to end up like UK. Speak ou

Boazy,

I still get the feeling you're riding your horse up and down the troop line, rousing and reminding everyone of why we need to fight. I think if someone digs deep enough into any religion, you could find enough material to scream blue murder, hypocrisy, corruption, 'innate violence', control and the list goes on.

The world has a particular problem with extremist Islam at the moment, not, I repeat not, Islam in general.

You would do well to remind us of the positive outcomes that you come across in your research. If I may suggest the following as an intro, seems how so many youtube video links have been posted on extremist Islam in the UK..

http://www.wcrp.org/files/ECRL%20statement%2002-07.pdf

The World Council for Religious Peace - now there's an idea.

Would you support a ban on Surah 9:29 and 30 and other 'anti Christian/Jew verses being preached in Australia?
B_D,
I'd support that religion gets no mention outside the home, full stop.. Why on earth can't so many people think of something more progressive than all this pointless religious stuff. There're 1000's of other fairytales, why not focus on some of them ?