I will answer all of your questions above as soon as you answer the questions that I have asked in regard to sheep farming and that you and dickie continue to ignore.

YOU NICKY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY!

This is why:

You stated to PALE – ““If you want any of these people to enter debates with you you should stop libelling them on these threads and ask them nicely.”

You have stated above – “Also explain what benefit there is to morons who want to see animals in such environments.”

Verdict; YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!

You have stated above – “Because you morons just like blowing defenceless animals away?”

Verdict; YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!

You have stated above – “And those are my final comments in reply to the endlessly repetitive, totally moronic comments from the same three idiots on this thread.”

Verdict; YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!

You really are pathetic! You should have been a politician since lying comes so easily to you. On a number of threads all I have seen of you or dickies comments is a contemptible disregard of anyone else’s opinion that disagrees with yours. You then have the temerity to lecture someone else. One word for you; HYPOCRITE!

Nicky your list:

I dislike circuses so I never go but I do not seek to impose my choice to refrain upon other people

I do enjoy rodeos, having been a horse rider, I understand the skill as well as the relationship between horse and rider displayed in rodeos.

Same too horse racing and trotting and fox hunting.

Duck shooting I have never shot but it is an historic hunting practice and there is nothing wrong with it,

Live stock export – practical and regulated by government inspectors, if you have a problem, complain to change the regulations.

Museling – dunno enough about it but work on the basis a pastoralist will not seek to inflict unnecessary cruelty on the animals in his care further, there is no governmental regulation which outlaws it, change the law first!

Furs – a legally commercial business, if you do not like it, don’t support it buy buying furs but that does not give you the right to interfere with other people going about their business.

PETA should learn how to tolerate and accept other peoples right to hold an alternate view.

“The fact that something is legal in Australia has nothing to do with whether or not it is cruel, for reasons explained multiple times already.”

We are regulated by what is legal in Australia and must never descend to being held as the hostage of mainiacal zealots of any form or view.

Any group, regardless of its self perceived moral right, which thinks it has a moral view which places it above the laws of Australia,

carries with it the same dangers commonly associated with people like Bader Meinhoff, the Italian Red Brigades and Robert Mugabe.

“And those are my final comments in reply to the endlessly repetitive, totally moronic comments from the same three idiots on this thread.”

Descent into generalizations like that is the hall mark of a failed viewpoint.

Well it doesn't really matter in the long run. There is nothing better than a good juicy Kangaroo steak. Mmmmmmm!

Guys, I have some sympathy for some (certainly not all or most) of the animal rights causes.

But until such time as you can explain your alternative methods of control for things such as wild dogs, and how they will be practically applied (sterilisation sounds all well and good, but how the hell do you plan to get such a program practically running?) it really is just hot air.

Unless, you really do prefer to not get your hands dirty, and would just let wild dog numbers get out of control and destroy native species.

Deny reality all you want, but don't expect others to join in.

Thank you for those words of wisdom TRTL.

Unlike those here who are antagonistic to truth and refuse to acknowledge the video I provided, I am confident we can look forward to your esteemed opinion on the footage I have provided.

May I have your expert appraisal on the contents - and also on any solutions you have to offer - providing you believe there is anything to be solved of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1_BOAF7qvk

And isn't freedom a glorious trait? Look how our democracy generously permits extremes of liberty. Who cares whether they lead to extreme sadism when the mob sets up a cabal of tyrants to champion the cause:

2000 to 2007 Australia: Four hundred and fourteen thousand *(414,000) livestock, succumbing to the inhumane incarceration on Australia's ships of death and dumped overboard whilst small children die from starvation, reduced to skin and bone whilst and slipping into comas from malnutrition.

And your comments TRTL?

Dickie dear, err around 40 million died, they were eaten.

We can't keep all the little darlings, not enough grass you know.

On the boats, no more were lost before being eaten , then are
lost in Australian feedlots before being eaten.

What Nicky has yet to explain, is why according to her little
fantacial philosophy, 1 sheep living 5 years is better then 5
sheep living one year each. After all, only so many at once can
live on the planet at one time.

Putting them all on the pill, as AL nuts suggest, is hardly
natural. It doesent help feed the starving babies that you worry
about, either.