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A Culling Bloody Shame

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I find it astonishing that people take a handful of incidents and then paint the entire sport or profession as being guilty of the same misdeeds. There is no doubt that cruel and unwarranted acts are committed on animals on farms, stations, in homes, in the bush and most everywhere else. However trying to lay the blame for something that happened to a bull at a rodeo in Tasmania on all rodeo participants in the world is as preposterous as saying every dog owner is responsible for what someone did to their dog that lives in Nairobi.

Posted by Nicky, Wednesday, 28 May 2008

“What of all the calves who are maimed and injured and killed, nationally, in "calf roping"?

What of them Nicky? How many? When? Where? Facts would be helpful instead of generalization's, which is what your arguments seem to be.

“And all the animals maimed and killed in "practice" activities, that are never made public?”
What of them Nicky? How many? When? Where? If the numbers are never made public how is that you know that this happens.

“As for mulesing, everyone knows the truth about it now, and that's why you people have been forced to find a solution. Try anesthesia and analgesia.”

Really Nicky. You and all the people in the world know all about mulesing? I find that fascinating considering I have not found after reading through PETA’s information on the subject, that even they know all the facts. But of course city dwellers will always know more about the country than country people, after all we’re only uneducated barbarians. "Try anesthesia and analgesia.” Well that's a good idea. Would you like to pay for it? How about PETA with their US$22 million income, would they like to pay for it. No, of course I forgot. YOU PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN FARMING ANIMALS.

Obviously the self appointed guru’s of animal welfare only want their opinion voiced. My suggestion to you is to get your facts right instead of coming to an argument with 5% fact and 95% hearsay.
Posted by myopinion, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 9:42:18 PM
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Freedom and the pursuit of happiness.

I LOVE Rodeos. Are you surprised?

I think it is great that there are still rodeo riders around who are prepared to live their dream in spite of the Dicks and Nicks of the world who wish to feminise them.

I can recollect the deaths of two participants, one a bull rider the other a saddle bronc rider. They died loving what they did.

Many riders experience injury and pain and I am sure that the total human pain greatly exceeds the animal pain.

How can anyone 'know' that the animals don't enjoy the activity? I have watched bulls that have thrown their rider exhibit what can only be described as a cocky, boisterous and self satisfied manner.

There should be a weekly rodeo on Channel 9! Let's have a rally.
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 10:02:56 PM
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I've been to Rodeos where the wildest bucking bull was taking kids for a ride not long after his turn out of the crush.

The Bulls know what they are doing and why they are there. They love to put on an act for the crowd. Some of them are so docile even young girls lead them around on leads behind the arena.

Mind you I grew up in the bush. When I was a kid we used to ride the bulls in the yards. Some you had to watch but most were OK, especially with kids. If you fell off they would come & sniff & nuzzle you to make sure you were alright.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 10:23:08 PM
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Hi all

Myopinion, you clearly did not read my post very well. My point was that the real numbers of animals maimed and killed at rodeos and at "practice" activities for these "events" is never made public.

As for you people who say these animals "enjoy it", how on earth do you arrive at that conclusion? I would suggest that a terrified young animal, having a choking rope yanked around its neck, being forced to the ground by an overwhelming bully and having its legs tied together is very unlikely to enjoy the experience, I'd suggest. Not to mention the fact that their young bodies are still developing. These "events" are nothing more than exercises in cruel domination simply because you can.

And if the riders are hurt more, you've made my evening. Call it the animals' revenge.

As for farm practices, do you cut off your dogs' and cats' testicles, cut away half their backside, and hot-iron brand them without anaesthesia? I thought not. But if not, why not?

Cheers
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Thursday, 29 May 2008 12:27:52 AM
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Nicky I've come to the conclusion that apart from being a fanatic you are also a misinformed "know-it-all". Obviously if anyone disagrees to you or dickies perception of how the world should be, then they are deemed wrong. You two have no sense of reasoning or logic. A lot of what PETA and Animals Australia says about mulesing and rodeo is not only wrong but complete lies, spun to suck in gullible followers like you two. They have succeeded but their lies will not succeed. People like you are in a very small minority and you will not succeed in destroying people's livelihood.
I thought that by joining this forum that one would be able to have a serious discussion on these issues, but the forum allowing clowns like you and dickie to run around making absurd and baseless allegations has shown it was not worth joining.
If you think you're so right, instead of being the faceless cowards that you are on the internet, why don't you go to some of the sheep farms or country pubs and rattle of your diatribe. I can assure you it would not be long before you had a boot up your arse and told to piss off!
Posted by myopinion, Thursday, 29 May 2008 12:53:30 AM
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Hi all

My opinion, I don't really think that little diatribe is worth dignifying with an answer, beyond saying that I know gross animal abuse when I see it, and I'm sure Dickie does too.

As for the rest, try peddling that in any civilized society and you would meet with a similar response to your extremely poorly expressed one in your post.

And spare us the tears of blood about farmers' livelihoods, you don't care about anyone's but your own. And you certainly don't care about your animals. PETA, Animals Australia, and the growing animal advocacy movement is exposing you people for what you are, and you don't like it.

You didn't answer my questions, either.

Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Thursday, 29 May 2008 1:03:00 AM
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