Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 21 May 2008
"Despite the mass slaughter of wildlife by the heinous 1080 bait, trapping and shooting."

What would you suggest is used for the control and eradication of foxes, which is what 1080 was designed for? I really look forward to your answer on this one.

Posted by dickie, Monday, 26 May 2008:
"If you'd prefer to debate these other important issues , why not commence a thread of your own rather than take this debate off topic or resort to the ad-homs?"

This was in reference to posts made on this thread by myself and Cowboy Joe.

Posted by dickie, Tuesday, 27 May 2008:
"Jordanian King’s sister, Princess Alia, armed with Animals Australia’s footage and emails of concern from Australia, has personally intervened in the issue of the disgraceful abattoir in Jordan which was portrayed on the ABC...continued."

You made a post in regard to Australian live exports to the Middle East, which has nothing to do with this thread about the culling of 400 roo's.
I would suggest that before you become the forum sheriff and lecture us on deviating from the original subject of this thread, that you should take you own advice first.

Greetings Nicky

I welcome your induction into the "Fellowship for Victims of Dobbers" and it is of some comfort to realise that we of the fellowship are at least separated from the sookies - the informers who continue to dish it out but are adept at hitting the delete button when they feel offended.

The resumption of live exports to Egypt must indeed be addressed. This decision is futher proof to the international community of the moral decay they have already witnessed in corporate Australia and its sycophantic government.

I trust they suffer the curse of a thousand mummies! Where are you Tut?

Nevertheless, my mood remains bouyant with the splendid news on the supreme efforts of Animals Australia, their affiliates and the hundreds of thousands of emails of protest from decent Australians over the unspeakable atrocities committed at the Jordanian abattoirs and the livestock marketplace. It is sickening to try to fathom just how many of our Australian and non-Australian animals suffered at the hands of these brutal men.

The AA achievement portrays the might of people power over a bent industry and an aligned government and is testament to goodness prevailing over evil.

And all praise to the very kind Princess Alia - clearly an angel of compassion.

Hallelujah, hallelujah.

Hi all

Yabby, which words are they that you suggest I should eat? I'm a bit mystified about that. Animals Australia worked with the Jordanian Royal family, as I understand it, not MLA's animal "welfare" pretenders. And on that basis, they may be able to shut down so many such "outlets" that you won't need any of your tramp ships at all. Then you will be faced with finding an alternative instead of just complaining about a lack of them.

You've had plenty of time to do something about mulesing, and you have only yourselves to blame for not addressing it before. If you have trouble accessing Trisolfen, tell us what we could be doing to help instead of complaining about it. Like the "improvements' in live export markets (pitiful as they are), you only started pretending to do something 'cause you were caught out.

Myopinion, my apolgies; there was a thread started - two, in fact, on this (live export) topic. Dickie, do you mind if I refer you to those rather than us continuing to ruffle feathers on this one?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1781

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1780

Cheers
Nicky

Peter Singer the founding Father of Animal Liberation advocates consensual sex with animals. Boston Globe -- April 11, 2001; NO HEAVY PETTING; Author: CATHY YOUNG

Dickie laments moral decay - This decision is further proof to the international community of the moral decay they have already witnessed in corporate Australia and its sycophantic government.

Dickie's continued silence on the Boston Globe article can only be construed that Dickie supports bestiality, consensual of course.

Hi all

Cowvoy Joe, without having seen the reference to which you direct us (please post link again if you don't mind) dare one suggest that the operative word is "consensual"? I can't think of an animal in its right mind who would want to get that close to a human, given the unequal balance of power (not to say cruelty of which they are on the receiving end).

Dickie, yes, I was absolutely in disgrace. But in fairness to PALE. I (for the first time) hit the delete button on them for a post against ASymonaekis (apologies for any spelling errors) on another thread which was nothing short of racial vilification. So they retaliated where I quoted several posts from a pig farmer from 2006 in support of my request for PALE to declare its credentials as far as actually achieving anything for animals is concerned (actually, I said "put up or shut up"). I have been trying to get to the bottom of what they actually DO for animal welfare. Just a shred of evidence would have done.

Let's move our live export discussions to the other threads. But I'm with you about Princess Alia, letters of appreciation wouldn't go astray either, perhaps.

Cheers
Nicky

Posted by Nicky, Tuesday, 27 May 2008;
"You've had plenty of time to do something about mulesing, and you have only yourselves to blame for not addressing it before.

Nicky you are talking absolute crap about mulesing. You obviously know very little about it, why it is being done and what the ramifications are if sheep, particularly ewes to be used for lambing, aren't mulesed.
I farmed sheep for over 20 years and my family were the first to introduce fat lamb breeding into W.A. I have seen the results of fly strike non-mulesed sheep during winter, particularly during a wet season.

As for Animals Australia and that rabid PETA dictating to Australian sheep farmers what they can and cannot do..are you people serious? I find it mind boggling that you support organizations whose policies are to destroy the wool industry in this country.

While I'm knocking these two organizations, I happened to have a little read on the articles that they have on rodeo. The articles are little fact surrounded by complete lies. I rode bulls professionally, both here and in the U.S. and what is written in that article is pure unadulterated rubbish. If you want to debate me on this one as well, then lets go for it.

From article:
"Regrettably the World Bull Riding Championships is setting an example of how to torment animals, which can only influence young people negatively."

WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE? There is none.

"Bull-riding is eight seconds of pure bullying. Bulls are not meant to be ridden. Their reaction to a rider on their back is violent, resulting in injuries to the animal that can and have been fatal."

REALLY? EXPLAIN TO ME HOW 75kg PERSON CAN BULLY A BULL THAT WEIGHS ON AVERAGE 810kg. A BULL CAN BREAK A MAN'S LEG WITH ONE KICK BUT A MAN CAN'T BREAK THE BULL'S LEG WITH A KICK. HOW IS THAT BULLYING? I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF BULLRIDERS CARTED OUT OF AN ARENA, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN A BULL CARTED OUT.