digiwigi: "Could that be shades of 'Les Paterson' type humour?"

Well, I am a fan of the yarts.

CJ,

I think people who like to joke about the 'size' of others are probably insecure about their own size. Regardless, I apologise for my comments here, I have been holding a grudge. My mother actually died earlier this year, hence my over-emotional reaction to your comments previously. Obviously you weren't to know.

To Romany,
'I could have substituted the topic I wanted to explore for another one?
You're being facetious?

'Men and their experiences,believe it or not, were not my point of reference.'
This is exactly my point that you decided to deliberately misconstrue. I was trying to say just that. You decided to use men as a point of reference, setting up a gender comparison, and that leaving out the comparison your beef with my comments would be understandable. I accept my post wasn't in the 'spirit' of the wider argument you were trying to make, but it's a plain lie to say you didn't use men as a point of reference.

To Vanilla, Romany, CJ,

I went over the top with my comments and rambled off topic in the end. I apologise for this. But do you guys have any idea how conceited you sound when you propose to talk about the 'issues' or 'demons' of other posters. I mean really, who the hell do you think you are? I think Ginx might have been right on the money in the Henson thread about you Vanilla.

I am leaving for good this time as I find all these personal attacks too upsetting. I certainly have a way with people. Anyway, I realise now that anything I have to say has no value on OLO, given the dominate preconception of me having 'issues'.

The OLO feminist posse of amateur psychologists has driven this 'misogynist' out of town!

Usual Suspect (if you're still around)
"But do you guys have any idea how conceited you sound when you propose to talk about the 'issues' or 'demons' of other posters. I mean really, who the hell do you think you are? I think Ginx might have been right on the money in the Henson thread about you Vanilla."

Perhaps she was. But I haven't discussed your demons or issues, and I wouldn't presume to. I observed that you seemed angrier than the situation warranted, and I still think that. Anyway. I thought you were a good bloke when you were Whitty and I still do — good luck with your little 'un.

Dear Usual Suspect,

Please re-consider leaving the Forum.

You're not the only one who at times has felt that you should leave,
because of the strength of some opinions directed at you.

But don't take it personally. I know it's easier said than done,
and I'm the last person qualified to give advice. However on
Forums like these we need (desperately need) a variety of opinions.
And your contribution has always presented a different perspective on things, for which I for one am appreciative. We don't always have to agree - but we should value differing opinions.

If we would all agree with each other constantly, how boring would that be, and how would we ever learn and grow?

Take some time off, if you need it, by all means.

But please come back - you are needed.

Usual Suspect

"Anyway. I thought you were a good bloke when you were Whitty and I still do."

I agree with Vanilla and endorse both hers and Foxy's comments. Even though I too have been on the receiving end of some withering attacks from you at times, I wouldn't like to see you leave either. We need diversity of opinion especially when it's well thought out as your arguments were. I can still recall clearly the good debate we had going on the Fair Go for Women thread at one stage. Us women won the day of course!! But you were one in particular I remember who forced us to really work at honing our arguments. Great mental gymnastics! It's what OLO is all about. How could you walk away from that?

I just took a look in here to see why Usual Suspect made his comment elsewhere.

The abuse and accusations against him were a bit rich. They are always made when women feel themselves criticised or on the defensive. Women are so used to being coddled by society and handled with velvet gloves because of feminism that they are not used to seeing a man disagree with them or call them out or contradict them. So they call men misogynists, say they "must be small" etc. This is partly why feminism is so damaging, but it's not going to go awaythat easily.

However, the same is the case for male feminists, who step in and instantly attack the motives or character of the male making obscene insinuations. I'm tired of it. I raised the issue some weeks/months ago and I don't expect it to evaporate until the Federal Office for Women is abolished and all these issues are seen from a neutral perspective, not a sexist (pro-female) one.

For the record. Men are called such things as dogs when shown legitimate interest in women,are dirty even though they are biologically natural, they think with their dicks, smell disgusting and sweat like pigs... etc.