Pericles,

You underrate your own contribution to raising standards on OLO. In fact you cheat yourself, by suggesting B_D is a collective.

To quote from your post:

"Actually, Romany, I've come to the conclusion that Boaz is a collective, not an individual.

Like that People Against Live Wotsits bunch.

Look at the evidence.

Some Boaz posts contain random capital letters and appalling spelling, while others are actually quite lucid."

The evidence is that since you took B_D to task for his then relatively extensive upper case work some time back,
he has improved his style markedly. Granted he ( as many others of us do) has since reverted to the use of capitals on occasions, but I get the sense that when that has happened, it is for the want of a bold type facility in the submission window. Perhaps this is something OLO could look at (a la the Ubuntu Forums posting window, which not only has Smileys, but bold type and COLOUR!).

All,

I guess glove puppetry is something we all have to remember is always possible. The faking of literary style is more difficult than might be imagined. The concealment thereof is manyfold more difficult, if not impossible. Read the B_D user history. Make your own judgement. Go through the user profile: you will find a point of distinct decapitalisation. Decide for yourself, ON THE EVIDENCE!

Remember! Resistance is futile! The Mind is a collective! Style is an affectation! Posture, and you will most certainly be deformed! 'Things' are as 'we' say they are. Assimilation is inevitable. We are the Borg!

B_D,

Interesting to see Keysar Trad refer to the words spoken in Luke 19:27 as if they were the words of Jesus. Well of course they were, inasmuch as they were spoken by him, but as the concluding line of a parable! The parable was an allusion, probably all too familiar to the audience of that day, to the confirmation of one of the successors to Herod the Great by Rome! Did Keysar not realize this when he quoted this scripture?

Hi Forest....

Kaysar simply did what most Muslim apologists..or..'cornered' Muslms do, 'attack' but sadly they attack with blunt weapons.. and even the wrong ones.

But kaysar has embarked on a new form of attack.. called the 'Dreyfus Case model' :) You might recall (or can look up) that once Dreyfus had been arrested, and it looked like the trial may implicate Major Ferdinand Walsin Esterhazy.. that Major did exactly what Kaysar is doing -the "shotgun method" of filling the evidence folders with numerous pieces of irrelevant information, bogging down and sidetracking the judiciary.

Kaysar opened his last post with a shotgun attack on the Bible. It can only be called at 'attack' because he quotes incredibly irrelevant passages which have no bearing on the matter under discussion, which was surah 9:29 and the associated Hadith which interprets it.

What "Ruth COHABITS with Boaz in the barn." has to do with that, I have not the slightest idea.

Clearly he is trying to say

"BOAZ.. you say the Quran has problems.. but what about THIS" kind of thing.

His choice of verses from the Bible are from the twighlight zone.

"Boaz co-habits with ruth in the barn"....er..so? does that make Christians more likely to invade their enemies? :)

*confused look*

Kaysar is just stuck in a corner and is trying to whack the nearest fundi and get out of it.

We can discuss the Bible anytime. But he is only here sometimes.

He should have chosen the most 'juicy' passage. "Do you think I came to bring peace? No, not peace but a sword"

aaah..now we are talking :)
I promise..its-a-comin.. probably in his next post.

What I find curious though, is this. He picks a lot of verses from here and there.. then claims 'the bible (which he says he is not disrespecting) contains as many 'difficult' passages as the Quran.

In all of that, he does not show, nor can he, that Christians are commanded to INVADE non Christians and subjugate them. Which is my major point about Islam as a faith.

and GWB wasn't a white power advocate? Puleese!

Boazy: << He picks a lot of verses from here and there.. then claims 'the bible (which he says he is not disrespecting) contains as many 'difficult' passages as the Quran. >>

I know you don't understand this, Boazy, but those of us who don't belong to your "faith communities" tend to see pots, kettles and blackness in this round-robin game you religious zealots play with each other. However, at OLO the religious vilification tends to come exclusively from the Christian fundies, rather than from those few brave Muslims who are game enough to engage here.

<< In all of that, he does not show, nor can he, that Christians are commanded to INVADE non Christians and subjugate them. >>

I'm not exactly sure what Rainier meant by his subsequent post, but I do seem to recall Bush saying something to the effect that he'd prayed to God about invading Iraq, and that God approved.

The media rushed to associate Obama with the extreme religious Reverend Wright, yet barely a blip on the publicity meter is raised when Rebublican McCain's ally, John Hagee, sees Hitler as the necessary catalyst for the establishment of Israel.

I wonder why Boaz missed this when he decided to start this thread on the USA election.

"Last week, John Hagee, a televangelist sought out by John McCain for political support, expressed regret to Catholics for his attacks on the Roman Catholic Church (he’s called the church, among other things, “the great whore” and “a false cult system”). This week, it looks like it’s time for yet another apology.

John Hagee, the controversial evangelical leader and endorser of Sen. John McCain, argued in a late 1990s sermon that the Nazis had operated on God’s behalf to chase the Jews from Europe and shepherd them to Palestine. According to the Reverend, Adolph Hitler was a “hunter,” sent by God, who was tasked with expediting God’s will of having the Jews re-establish a state of Israel.

Seriously. He really did make the argument..."

Read on and view the video at:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/election08/86157/

And consider the reason why religion and politics should always be kept separate for all our sakes.