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Why Hillary Clinton should not be chief pitcher for the Democrats.

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ASymeonakis if you insist on digging your own “credibility grave", let me not dissuade you.

Your venomous anti-Margaret rhetoric is veering on the hysterical.

“Thatcher was a class warrior, not an economic libertarian. Where market reforms benefited the rich or bribed floating voters , she supported them. Where market reforms could have helped the poor, she did nothing.”

Substantiate that claim with examples. I have examples to the contrary but I want to see you put the noose around your own neck before I release the trap door.

“During her period, union membership has declined over 20 percent.”
Maybe the credibility and ethicacy of the union movement had something to do with that.

Reason would suggest, if she were so damning an influence, the backlash would have seen union membership escalate in protest against her.

“and did nothing for women in public life.” - except be one and in her day, the leading one.

We have commented on the poll tax earlier in the thread and I stand by what I wrote there. You bringing it up again is repetition, try to progress the debate instead of repeating it.

The Falklands war was a FACT and extremely important to the Falkland islanders, who were British citizens of predominant British descent.

Your opinion on the fiscal merits of the Falkland war is not shared by the tax payers of the UK who re-elected MT into the Prime Ministers office repeatedly following its successful conclusion.

“We both know that we can not agree as I stand by working and meddle class people and you by big corporations as I am an internationalist and you are Nationalist as I look forward to the future and you to the past, as I put human over the properties and the money.”

Your mis-categorization of me is as inaccurate of your reading of Margaret Thatchers roll in history.
But being an “Internationalist” explains why you are so frightened of people like Margaret Thatcher, she stomped your communist system into the dust.

Now provide some substance to your criticism of MT as requested above.
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:57:56 AM
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Col Rouge

“We both know that we can not agree as I stand by working and meddle class people and you by big corporations as I am an internationalist and you are Nationalist as I look forward to the future and you to the past, as I put human over the properties and the money.”

"Your mis-categorization of me is as inaccurate of your reading of Margaret Thatchers roll in history."

We've all read enough of your posts, Col, to know that Antonios' summation of you is spot-on.

We're probably a little less clear though about Margaret Thatcher's "roll" in history!
Posted by Bronwyn, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:13:49 PM
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Gawd Bronwyn - if Col was "almost salavating" earlier in the thread, just imagine what effect the prospect of a "roll" with Maggie will do to him!
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:19:31 PM
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Bronwyn “We've all read enough of your posts, Col, to know that Antonios' summation of you is spot-on.”

To support your summation you need to –

Identify, through quotations of me, where I favour to big corporations over individuals
Identify, through quotations of me, what shows I put property and money before humans

I am prepared to accept the idea that I am not an internationalist but to suggest I am a “nationalist” is equally erroneous, let me quote to you dearest Margaret Thatcher on the matter

“There is no such thing as Society. There are individual men and women, and there are families.”

If being an ardent and vocal supporter of individual rights and the idea that government is the servant (and not the master) of the individuals who elect it, makes me more of a nationalist than an internationalist, then so be it.

As for “internationalists”, I have an idea it might be a personality problem. Maybe simply people who are emotionally incapable of identifying, in any real sense, with people they know and who know them, so seek some larger group to identify with and possibly hide within.

Certainly, the way the “internationalists” feel compelled to order the rest of us on how we should feel and act and how they seek to control our every action, alludes to someone trying to compensate for a dissociative disorder.

By the way, if you think you have any idea to who I am from these posts, the collection of a few words on these threads, comes nowhere near to who I am but I will not bore you on that, just leave you to your ignorance.

Now I suggest you run away and find the quotes you need.

Happy hunting, no playing “flat cat and friends” in the car.
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 8:06:11 AM
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Paul L.>"Iran has involved itself directly in the insurgency in Iraq by providing training and weapons to Shiite terrorists. The explosively formed projectiles are coming directly from Iran’s revolutionary guard corps."

This is Propaganda. Shame you still believe everything that comes out the mouths of the US government (and Australian government which merely regurgitates the same press statements as fact)....despite the lies over the Iraq war...that must take some kind of blind faith or...partisan bigotry.

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19908.htm

12/05/08 "ICH" -- - In a sharp reversal of its longstanding accusations against Iran arming militants in Iraq , the US military has made an unprecedented albeit quiet confession: the weapons they had recently found in Iraq were not made in Iran at all.
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Posted by Steel, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 4:32:48 PM
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CJ Morgan

"Gawd Bronwyn - if Col was 'almost salavating' earlier in the thread, just imagine what effect the prospect of a 'roll' with Maggie will do to him!"

LOL!

Col Rouge

"Now I suggest you run away and find the quotes you need."

I'll pass, thanks Col. Reading your posts once is more than enough!
Posted by Bronwyn, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 9:17:15 PM
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