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Why Hillary Clinton should not be chief pitcher for the Democrats.

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ASymeonakis “Margaret Thacher . . etc.”

That you see Falkland islanders as “less”, describes a callous view which is contemptible.

I lived near London when she led the conservative party to power, supported by my my vote.

The UK union forced me to study by kerosene lamp because the miners were on strike, dictating to the rest of Britain.

The UK labour party had run the economy into the ground by asinine decisions and kow-towing to the corrupt union movement.

Margaret Tatchers predecessor, Heath did not have the backbone to stand up to the unions but Margaret Thatcher did.

1979 Michael Foote was leader of the UK Labour party, he was a sentimental git with the political skill of an ameoba. labour manifesto was considered more left wing than the Italian communists.

Margaret Thatcher saved BRitain from the pernicious evils of the extended union power incorporated in the labour party manifesto, as well as having positive ideas on how to improve the lot of most Britains.

She prevailed over the removal of many government controlled monopolies to the benefit of all.

She sought and oversaw the mass sell off of public housing to sitting tenants, freeing up resources to be put to better use than in providing long term secure housing to people who could afford (and did) to buy the houses in their own name for their own capital benefit.

As education secretary she defined and oversaw significant improvements to UK education system, both secondary and tertiary.

She remains the pre-eminent icon of what women can achieve if they set their mind to things.

And she scared the crap out of the evil empire.

You suggest she ignored labor, children, women, pensioners students etc. is clearly based on your own ignorance to her achievements both before and when she became the first female Prime Minister of UK and the most powerful woman in the world, at that time.

I suggest you confine your comments to matters you can support with reason and example before go slagging off a someone you are not fit to walk in the shadow of.
Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 11 May 2008 9:03:49 PM
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Col Rouge
Here Here. Very well spoken and thank you. Pity there were not a few like her here right now.

No he is not fit to walk her shadow and his comments are offesiv
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 12 May 2008 5:37:59 AM
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YOU HAVE TO SEE.....THIS :)

"The power of youtube"...

I'd hate to be a political candidate these days.. when you see what can be done with a bit of cutting and pasting.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=attlFcUWapU&feature=related

Note.. MA15+ rating.

Poor Hillary.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 12 May 2008 8:02:30 AM
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Col Rouge: << And she scared the crap out of the evil empire >>

Not so sure about "the evil empire", but she certainly "scared the crap" out of more than a few of us here in Oz - as does Hillary, for much the same reasons.

Great vid Boazy :)
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 12 May 2008 8:39:18 AM
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Col Rouge
Thatcher was a class warrior, not an economic libertarian. Where market reforms benefited the rich or bribed floating voters , she supported them. Where market reforms could have helped the poor, she did nothing.
Margaret Thatcher was number one enemy of the trade union movement.During her period, union membership has declined over 20 percent.
Margaret Thatcher damaged women's place in the workplace, undermined families and communities, and did nothing for women in public life. It was a wasted opportunity on a gargantuan scale.
The poll tax was probably one of the most unpopular taxes ever introduced. It was widely condemned as being unfair and inequitable. Its unpopularity contributed to the downfall of Margaret Thatcher

The value of the war for Falkland islands was ONLY SYMBOLIC, the British empire was dead and it did not support any important British goal. The war for Falklands was a waste of money and nothing else.
Of cause the Falklands she became dangerous for international security, peace and cooperation, threatening to use nuclear bombs against Argentina.
Col Rouge
We both know that we can not agree as I stand by working and meddle class people and you by big corporations as I am an internationalist and you are Nationalist as I look forward to the future and you to the past, as I put human over the properties and the money.

For me Margaret Thacher as John Howard WAS THE WORST PRIME MINISTERS.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Monday, 12 May 2008 9:45:57 AM
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Paul.L
You are a smart man, you know the truth. I want to hear from you the truth about Iraq and ONLY THE TRUTH!
Did Bush, Howard, Blair, lie the International community about the war in Iraq? What was not lies for this war?
Do you believe we can export democracy by guns and deaths?
Do you think the new Iraq could become a democracy as we mean it or it will depend and follow Iran's Theocratic system?
What is the role of sharia law in the new constitution of Iraq?
Do you think this war with so big costs was a success or one from the biggest mistakes of USA foreign policy?
What is the contribution of this war on America's fast decline?

What PROVES did they have about the chemical weapons, about the biological weapons, about the nuclear weapons, about the import of uranium from Niger, about Saddam's cooperation with ALQEADA, about more safety world, about the Iraq's ability to lance its weapons in few minutes and hit any part of the world?
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid
Posted by ASymeonakis, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:11:52 AM
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