Hello STG
Thanks for making a comment on this thread. Yes people I am afriad are mislead by the Government both Federal and State. Its not that they dont cafe its just that our system is well oiled in their minds.
I know for sure if the everyday public actually saw what the industry and Government are hiding they would be SCREAMING.

Instead I guess they say to themselves - oh well there are Animal Welfare organisations and others taking care of the Animals and my lifes too busy with work and the kids.
High interest rates and buying school books is just about all they can handle while watching the price of meat rise due to world wide demand.

Hello our dear Foxy . Yes Your always there to call for justice and common deceny.
However Foxy just before you feel too comfortable we are asking the public to think and think again.
individual,
Here you are again expressing words that come from thinking Indidually. Dont ever change that name and what makes you- indivdual.
We need more public to think for themselves. We thank You .
mattermotor,
You hit the nail on the head!
There are bugger all people looking after the animals. That is the truth.

In this thread we intend to take a closer look at this well oiled political syatyem. We will discuss subs to the DPI State Governments and think again wy this should be presented in a tick here or they.

In fact why are prepaired doucument.

Dicky
The problem is we must stop talking in codes of practise because the public dont understand animal welfare group shop talk.

Your efforts of course are nothing short of fantasic.

In this thread we will explain to the public about the Government and RSPCA codes of practise and why it does not work for Animals.

It actually assists evil people to hide behind the Government- and for Government to hide behind evil people.

Well tell them no more. The public wont stand for it!

Dear PALE&IF,

Please tell us what else can we do - if what Dickie says is true -
then what else can be done?

Dear Foxy

Thank you for your Question.

While there is no easy one answer, IMOP, the best thing, to do would be follow Dickys lead and lodge 'something'.

Tell all your friends and family the truth.

That being is RSPCA are very understaffed. The truth is RSPCA Have "no laws to enforce."

They are only what they term RECOMMENDED CODES OF PRACTISE= SELF Regulated ??

Try getting two friends in each suburb to get something out to local letter boxes.

One thing I think Dicky might like to do for us if she doesnt mind is to check what "RSPCA themselves lodge."?

I recall sitting up for three nights straight sending messages back and forth to Muslim reps in the community several years ago.

Together we put together what we thought was a pretty good sub.

Later I am sure I received a email from RSPCA QLD telling us thats thanks but these 'were standard 'and 'always done from head office RSPCA National.?

I 'suspect' all RSPCA National do is copy out the usless non inforacable codes and re lodge it etc etc.

Who knows maybe DPI just do it as they have MOUs with State Governments to inspect farm animals.?

There is something terribly wrong IMOP Foxy.

I think perhaps a open public enquiry or Royal Commission is required.

Many good people working there so my comments are directed at the STRUCTURE of RSPCA from National Branch.

Who employs the staff? To whom are they anwserable?

If CEOs wages are paid by funds from Federal and State Government a few inspectors etc.

Then Surley it would be a reasonable public observation to assume RSPCA National are simply another branch of the Government - Would it.?:

How is this board structered and to whom are they answerable to.?


eg, pale has contacted RSPCA National since 2003 to meet with Muslim Leaders to join us working under our MOU regarding Animal Welfare.

I have got to say the response has been more than dissapointing bordering and in fact at times straight out dishounerable and deceitful.

To Be Contiuned.

In a way it is extraordinary that there needs to be any input whatsoever from the public. One would think that there would be very strict guide lines in place already.

It is becoming important for people buying meat at butchers to ask where their meat comes from. How where the animals farmed and transported. The more people ask this, the more change will come about.

It is unbelievable that Australia allows export of live animals for the meat industry. As if it is not possible to address kosher and halal stipulations here in Australia itself.

Thanks Foxy for the address. I will also write and my daughter certainly will. She's been a vegetarian for philosophical reason for a long time now.

Pale, the only reason why people may not make too much comment is because willful blindness is easier to live with than feel guilty about what we eat

PALE&IF

I'd like to send an email to the address Foxy has provided. Are there any specific issues we should be addressing, or is a general statement against animal cruelty and live export okay? I can't really find out what the standards you're referring to are from anything I've read or linked to here. I don't really fancy reading the 100 pages Dickie mentioned in order to get my head properly around the facts, but I would like to add my voice on this issue.

I read this morning of some young guys in a car harrassing a woman walking her dogs in a deserted industrial area somewhere in Sydney's west. They deliberately ran over one of the dogs, killing it and then cruelly taunted the woman as she ran to its assistance. She described them as acting as if they were country boys racing around a paddock in a ute chasing a rabbit. I just can't begin to understand what would drive people to commit such cruelty.

I just can't begin to understand what would drive people to commit such cruelty.
Bronwyn,
As incomprehensible that kind of behavior is, it is not surprising. Add up the following:
Saturation nonsense on TV,
Saturation competitive sport,
saturation violence,
saturation advertising,
saturation stock market,
saturation etc. etc.
It really is no surprise people are losing all sense of moral & all that makes a civilized human being. Care about some animals ? How can we expect people to care about animals when we have no regard for our own kind. Bureaucracy has seen to that.