I enjoyed that little tiff between Rob and Foxy! Rob, I may be wrong but you take things too seriously.Profesor Doherty was showing that he was a human being in joining the male-female tug-of-war.I,like he does,lets the rope go their way occassionally,as I know they love winning and isn't the reason men are on earth, is to make women happy?
Love your quotes Foxy!

Ginx> "has it ever occurred to either of you that you are both classic instigators of rampant feminism?"

...i think you have this backwards. Feminists themselves are the instigators. They are the ones publishing articles here and in media and seeking to use their special office in federal government to push their agendas. Male interests simply do not count and are ignored in this process, because of it's inherent sexism. People who argue against feminism are immediately attacked and used as political tools to assert that "female persecution and misogyny is still rampant", because people have been trained (or educated) and sensitised on the issue. Now that they have federal power and no opposition in this way, they have a direct, disproportionate influence in policy making.

I see the word feminism used globally, without stating which brand of feminism, and if you don't understand read Helen Garner "The First Stone" - and it's got far worse since then in our current murky soup of Political Correctness based upon the very thing [Power Feminism] that Helen was discussing [as a True/Equality Feminist]

Dear Rob,

I hear what you're saying. Certainly we all see things from our own perspective - depending on our culture, education, upbringing, and so on. But as long as we retain the ability to laugh at ourselves - I think we'll be ok.

Which reminds me, have you heard these two jokes? 1) - "Do you know feminists don't have a sense of humour?"

"No, but if you hum a few lines..."

Or

2) My husband said that for his physical, the doctor needed a urine specimen, a stool sample, and a semen specimen.

I told him, "Just give them your underwear!"

Smile and the world smiles with you. Cry, and they pay to watch.

...........as I said;-trying to push a boulder...

I recall you and DD and whoever, had taken a fair hammering in the marriage stakes. I should really try to be more gentle with you.....; how about this,-(being as we're into jokes an'all):

"Whats that useless piece of skin on the end of a penis?"

"A man."

"Camille Paglia remember received death threats
and letter bombs"

exactly my friend, same as did Garner for First Stone

the bottom line is corrupt governments eg Hitler, Howard thrive on the PC generated by a Gender War, as does the Family Law Industry

what they fear, on the other hand, is someone who detaches from the BS [or like Garner WAS a genuine feminist instigator] and threatens to enlighten the mushrooms to the KISS truth of the matter.

and remember that I TOO had an attempt on my life [by a hit man sent by lawyers] for telling blokes the truth re Fam Law, which STARTS as forget everything to DO with gender war, as it is simply a very clever marketing tool [red herring] to get bloke to take eye off the ball, albeit so entrenced is this PC that very few blokes ever had their eye ON the ball for starters