Foxy, whilst I couldn't agree more with your comments regarding mutual respect in relationships, the fact is that men are NOT accorded equal respect by our societal institutions. The thread was about that, not about familial relationships.

My feeling and my fear is that my son is going to find his row considerably harder to hoe than my daughter will find hers, because the institutions of our society have a determined set of aggressively "feminist" women and self-serving men in control of them. Those people see it as their "duty" to ensure preferment for women over men and to use whatever means they can to create an environment in which women thrive and men wither unless they conform to a "feminist ideal". There is no room for non-conformists and little scope for questioning their decisions. As an example, what do you think would happen if I was to make a complaint against an employer for gender-based discrimination? What if my female co-worker made the same complaint?

They have taken a noble goal - equality of opportunity for all - and turned it into a nasty, hateful "us against them" power struggle, with nasty men cast as "original sinners" and poor old women the perpetual victims. I despise them for their hypocrisy.

**They** have taken a noble goal - equality of opportunity for all - and turned it into a nasty, hateful "us against them" power struggle, with nasty men cast as "original sinners" and poor old women the perpetual victims. I despise **them** for **their** hypocrisy.

exactly true, but who ARE they. Well that is the way Political Correctness works, and we are now in the worst bout of all via power feminism, and as I tried to say, it seems those under 60 have no benchmarks to compare to the reallity of 1960s [not the hype] of equality in relationships

Males like me can talk all we want [or in my case write a book] about how the true feminists [looking for equality in wages etc] got railroaded by the power feminists, the Greer based Lady Love Your Cu**, but a true feminist like Helen Garner is immune to all that anti male sledging

that is why she caused such a stir with First Stone and Joe Cinquie books

oh yeah, the THEY is us, or rather softcock [SNAG] males who just go along with it, thus making job easy for the Howards etc

as Hitler found

"It is a great advantage to governments that the people do not think"

Dear Divorce Doctor,

You're making assumptions about people you know nothing about. You'are generalizing and grouping everyone in the one category - "Feminist," (and "hairy" ones at that). My goodness - head for the hills people! Perhaps that is an 'age' thing after all? Or would a 'generational' quirk be more polite?

As for my studies. Well, actually they were completed a long time ago.
In Sydney,Los Angeles and Melbourne.

You keep referring to Greer - I actually don't like the woman, never did.

I don't know what your problem is - but you sound like a very embittered man. There's probably a good reason for your behaviour.
However, seeking counseling may help - before you become even more bitter.

Cheers.

CONT'D

I fully agree with you... today to be subversive -
is to think!

Try it some time before you open your mouth!

I heard on the radio today that men account for 67% of all road fatalities (not sure what area is covered but the item was a Qld one).
Our premier and others were making a big deal about women telling their males to drive more sensibly etc. The impression from the reporting was that men are clearly more reckless drivers (possibly true). I got to thinking though. Most professional drivers especially long distance drivers are male. Men are more likely to be doing more Km's of actual distance traveled than women.

Is the fact that men account for 67% of road fatalities and indication of more reckless driving or of the proportion of road distance travelled by men.

Has anybody ever seen stats about the road distances covered by men and women (and children)? Not something I've seen but my gut feel is that men probably do 67% or better of overall road distance travelled.

If so is the genderisation of the campaign new sexism or genuine concern for mens sefety?

R0bert

"I heard on the radio today that men account for 67% of all road fatalities"

yes Rob, Oz is now the world leader in the production of Reports, not greenhouse or a new solar panel design, but on useless AND unsubstantiated "men bashing" matters, BECAUSE that is where Howard threw the funds, ie $2.3 billion pa and zip to men or R&D

the AIFS is the worst

but yes, firstly I am sure it would be men do more than 67% of kms, but secondly "account for"?

As for the drug crazed woman that killed that triathalon bloke on his pushbike, was that a male account for [as he was the one killed] or a female account for as she CAUSED the killing

No need to answer as we all know which way that situation is spun

the essential element of producing dogma reports [as I am sure Foxy would confirm, but is not "allowed" to admit] is being obfuscational about every aspect of the methodology, and using Weasel Words [per Don Watson] is the key

it's the old lies et statistics quote rehashed