Thanks for the link Penny
WA courts are a tiny inter connected bunch that seem to operate with their small clicky clam out back in corridors.
They operate almost totally separate from the rest of the system, funny ideas and really quite interesting as to what they ‘think’ they can get away with.
Fortunately there is a whole another world out there in the justice system. If he can help -good.
if not...
Goodnight

Nicky
By the way a very good call on opening this site. Interfearance with court cases by Government will not be tolerated.
By now of course you realise that this Government is a different cookie to the much hated Howard Government.
They play it by different rules. Like they just lie interfear or change them.
Soon when we get time we will give your thread the attention it deserves. Not so much about the particular case you raised but the overall threat to justice in this country being interfeared with.

I think at the end of the day this whole affair will have to go up to the UN. All that requires is some cooperation to make it happen and the right team of of some high profiles and legals.

These people have a right btw to have their appeal upheld and if we leave out just for a moment the matter at hand and look at the interfearance it cant be allowed to continue.

The WA government crawling up the @ of that industry have really gone too far this time.
The powers quite clearly from fed to state must be inderpendant.

A long time ago one of the people you follow said for eg Jack lake was ok.
Well he would have been the biggest problem at the time refusing to consider options but being oh so nice to her face.

I feel very sure anything that is filed down there regarding this matter now will be responded by in chamber applications to get it struck out without any a formal court transcipts.

This is a very interesting case in a legal sense. Quite apart from Animal Welfare.

Improper Ministerial intervention in WA live export cruelty case indeed
Its really is beyond the pale

Hi all
PALE, I doubt if there are grounds for it to be taken to the UN. But there might be grounds to take the trade collectively, and the players in it, to the OIE, since almost all the countries to which Australia exports animals are signatories to the OIE Standards and none are meeting them. You wouldn't do it on just this case though, it would be a matter of presenting all the available evidence as a whole, and also finding a way of forcing the OIE to take action (it seems to be as lethargic as animal welfare authorities in Australia, and there is no way it could not be aware of all this).

Just a thought.

Cheers
Nicky

Nicky
Thanks for that. Could you run any ideas by. Cant talk here
robertcochrane@qldlawgroup.com.au
Just informally and I will tell him I requested you to.
If its a prob for you dont worry.
Thanks again Nicky we really appreciate your interest.
Have a good night.
I see you girls are giving our poor old resident rat Yabbs a dust up Ah.

Poor Yabby does bring it all on himself, I'm afraid, with half-baked and unsupported "scientific" theory and his sexist bagging when he is backed into a corner. Still, it wouldn't be the same without him.

If would be better if you just copied and pasted what I've said here to your lawyer friend, I think. I shouldn't think you would have to have "standing" to bring a complaint there as you would if you contested the WA matter.

Cheers
Nicky

Nicky

Yes I agree it wouldnt be the same without our poor old Yabbs.

I was thinking to reopen the yabbys adventures thread again soon.

I was wondering if we could base it on real ships and real happenings. What do you think? To educate the public.

You have so much knowledge in your head. More than I. perhaps you might help see yabbs off on one of his ships.

I must addmitt I am a bit usleless at that. I always get the names and dated mixed and have to loook things up.

They tell me Gleynse is fantasic with the knowledge in her head. Pity she doesnt post here.

Re the legal stuff. Its going to be a few weeks yet I suppose before we know advise.

I can only assume if we run it the Qc will invite all states to join etc.
We will if that happens invite all groups to join. This is what we invited AA to join us in in 2003 but AA refused to meet with us about it.
God knows why because we have the x crimes commissioner running it. Anyway thats in the past- i guess!

iF RSPCA dont respond in a very positive manner do not think pale will be silent either.

When this was mentioned before to RSPCA National they said we would have to contact AA.

Fair enough we are happy to do that if and when it happens.

If there is no co operation then we will supeana. All we care about is fixing it for the animals minus personalites.

The aim would be to get it on track and hand it lockstock and barrel back over to AA with our lawyers to assist them.

We have 'too much' already with afic and international halal.

Hey cant you see poor old yabbs little face when the muslims themselves demand live animal exports to be stopped- hilarious.
( soon Yabbs very soon)

Nicky this is 'very important' please. Tell me as much as you know about rspca and money you mentioned earler.