Graham Young

Below is just one of the many examples a organisation can have when attacked by cowards not prepaired to put their names to a comment.

please note this comment is still up on the forum doing great damage to our organisation which you already know is linked to RSPCA QLD.
Even it is wasnt we are a organisation of our own identity. Why should honest users need lawyers to deal with the problems.

Given also we work with AFIC and Aboriginal Elders of course that particular comments is outragous.It IS defamtation in a legal sense.


Point. I do not believe that comment and the comment below would have been made if your forum made people accountable for what they say.
Either way its very unfair. >>

PALE ~ You're a moron. Racist pig. Get back to saving cows. You've got ZERO idea, and if you're the quality of Hansons support, thank christ that scrag won't make it past the hick bandwagon.
Posted by StG, Monday, 27 August 2007 7:59:09 PM

Now legally the problem we have with these types of comments is we have to sue the person who has published it.
Not fair on You and not fair on us.


He is another example of irresponsible cowards.>

This is the apology that should have been given:
I'm sorry your black.
I'm sorry you weren't all wiped out the day Captain James Cook first discovered this beautiful country.
Posted by wassup, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 7:08:01 AM

If you don't want your organisation's image tarnished by the dumb and hateful rants of individuals, why don't you get them to post here under their own names or nicknames rather than as PALE? Rest assured that I'll continue to refute and lampoon egregiously xenophobic, racist or otherwise hateful comments in the manner which they deserve, no matter whose name they're posted under.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 6:50:53 AM

But Who can forget the CAR PARK Started by ROBERT who demanded WE post In our REAL names.
What a bleeding joke!
Enough is enough

Dear VANILLA.. now I'm worried about your mental condition.. unless you were having me on with that thing about "Now I'm thinking of turning to Islam" because of my links to video's of angry Muslims..

I appreciate your agreement about the offense thing, but your reaction to my links shouldn't be what you said even in jest.. strewth..

I could much more relate to "I'm so sick of boazy's links to video's of angry Muslims I'd like to go nose to nose with him and yell at him for about an hour".. now that..I could relate to. (between you and me...I'd be happy for that :) I could even understand you wanting to have a rant about 'Church abuse' or make a long list of Church/clergy 'sins'....

But saying what you said just blows my mind. Why in the wide world would you even joke about that? If you said it to annoy me there a much better ways (and less self destructive) to do it.

In a way...that is the terrible horrifying danger of Islam. One of my youtube correspondents confessed "Even if you can prove that the Quran permits child abuse, I'd still follow it" He at first charged me with "getting info from hate sites" but patient dialogue showed him the facts of the matter.

Vanilla.. you do have a very crucial point though. Raving on about the evils of Islam does little for the cause of Christ.

This is where some understanding of the dual sphere of the Christian life is needed.
On the one hand.. as Christians, we do want to share Gods love in Christ. Lets call that 'evangelism'.. proclaiming the sacrificial death of Jesus for our sins, and His wonderful resurrection.

But we also exist in a social context. As such we also (as individuals in society) need to take responsibility for how things work..or are changed.

Ideally, I'd have 2 profiles.. good cop and bad cop :)

I'd use bad cop for all the info about Islam.

Col Rouge: "If disclosure of personal identity became mandatory, I would have to consider seriously, whether to post here or find a different forum to post on"

While I'm sure that would be a tragic outcome, I think OLO would survive without "Col Rouge".

Boazy: "... the terrible horrifying danger of Islam"

Yawn, but I'd defend your right to post such tripe. A shame you don't have the courage of your convictions to consuct your crusade under your real name.

PALE&IF: "...irresponsible cowards"

I'm not sure why you've included me under that rubric, given that my comment you've quoted was quite legitimate (if not exactly complimentary) and under my real name. Incidentally, I note that in the same post you identify the poster of the "racist pigs" comment, who is not me.

Would you like to retract your claim that I made that comment now?

Dear GrahamY
You know that I agree with it. More responsible, more mature, more sensitive, more honest, more truth, more credible.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Before I start I would like to point out that when I refer to PALEIF I'm not refering to the organisation but to the person or persons using the name "People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming" as an id on this site - I'm somewhat over being accussed of attacking the organisation by someone hiding behind the organisations name.

PALEIF has made a couple of references to the carpark recently. Some who were not around at the time or had better things to do may not know what it was about. "But Who can forget the CAR PARK Started by ROBERT who demanded WE post In our REAL names." In regard to PALEIF's claim that I wanted real names see my comment at
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=989#18535

For the carpark itself see
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=989&page=1

TammyJo your concerns are discussed at length.

If it's any comfort you are not the first to be threatened with a lawsuit. A few of us have been there in one form or another. As far as I'm aware the threats have so far being a tactics to stifle opposing views but you probably should read a comment by Graham on the carpark at

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=989#18525
"I note that PALE is now threatening legal action. That need not stifle legitimate discussion, but you should all bear in mind that you are responsible for your own comments, and that in the event that the threat is carried through a court has the power to order us to provide them with your personal details."

For anybody who wants to get an understanding of the comments PALEIF has been posting about me or who has been threatened by PALEIF have a read through the carpark. There is another thread opened by PALEIF http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1022&page=1 which those who want to be sure they've got both side of this should see.

Sorry to those who never wanted to see this stuff again but my tolerance for PALEIF's misrepresentations and nasty digs has expired again. I'd be happy to leave it in the past but apparently PALEIF and Taryn are unwilling to do so.

R0bert

Robert
I dont want to argue with you but i DO want people to use real Ids for a very GOOD reason.
If anybody wants to get pales comments bla bla bla
That’s not the point. We are talking about people using real Ids here.
We are talking about being answerable to our comments. So you had no right to start any car parks challenging the way they post. But you did and they said nothing not wanting to rub your nose into it. I know because I was angry and wanted to complain to GY but Wendy said no let it go because some people might understand we are not snobs. Or something similar)
PALE by the way is a member institution so there for entitled to post under what they joined as. See>

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/member.asp?id=46

You should have been pulled up a long time ago for starting car parks to try to change their posting rules.
It’s not up to you. Its GY forum.
Its time somebody spoke up for pale Robert.
They have never broken a forum posting rule ever and they by choice posted in their REAL ids

I used to post under pale but YOU complained so because I didn’t want to cause trouble for pale I got my own ID.

Then you darn well complained AGAIN that I was really pale posting under Taryn.
Mind you ALL THIS TIME you are refusing to post under your real name.
Here is pales membership which can by found under members.




Look at the attack on aboriginal people made in a false name a few days ago. Do you think I am going to let people say that about my people many of them family?
No Real names should be made laws as far as I am concerned
I will always use my real name its unfair others don’t have to and yes I would like it changed.