Yabby dont provide me with links to 'prove ' your point...give me proof that Animal welfare is wrong about live exports..

I think the keyboard cocky scenario fits you quite nicely...

I want proof..please...no links.Have you actually been on board any of these death ships?
Id be very pleased to know..or was that too much like actually doing something?

Taurus/Rachel, as you are a single mother, I understand all the time you have for posting here.

You seem to believe that farming is a 38 hours a week, 9 to 5 job. What are you doing at 5 am? Do farmers knock of 5? Do we get weekends off? No. Personally, my day starts very early and the first round of work would be finished before you even thought about getting out of bed. We generally organise our work so that we are not out in the heat of the day. We come and go all day until late. So, I can understand how a farmer could drop in a post at any time, whats your excuse?

Pigfarmer/pisces..what are u on about..?

I believe I was asking Yabby about his experience with live sheep exports?

Taurus and I are not related..sorry.

But you on the other hand have admitted as Pisces that you own a pigfarm near Inverell and thats where Pigfarmers farm is.

So Butcherbob..facts please.

Ozzie,I think you are a little confused. Pisces was telling us about a free range pig farm featured on Landline yesterday and today. No mention was made of who owns it.

Did you watch the program by the way? I thought it was great. I find it incredible that the intensive farmers honestly believe that what they are doing is in the best interest of the pigs.

Did you see him hosing all that crap off his pigs and then in the next breath, condemned eco shelters and deep litter because "the pigs just lay around in their own faeces"

That woman with her sterile farrowing unit. All those bars and cramped conditions. How natural is that? According to them, the pigs really do so much better in these controlled enviroments.

If there were affected by sever drought and dying in their paddocks, then I could accept that as being in their best interest.

PF, exactly! I don't think its occured to Rachel/Taurus, that
farmers pop in to their houses-offices in between chores, for meals,
cups of tea, data from the computer, other biz etc etc. Today's
good farmers actually spend quite alot of time on the net, as
knowledge is power and its all about smarter farming, not harder working
farming. Cutting edge innovation involves information. The couple
of minutes to reply to a post on OLO, is in fact neither here nor
there, apart from being a brief amusement.

R/T the links I provide are in fact evidence, if you bother to read
them. Alot of them are the latest info from Govt/semi Govt institutions,
accountable to the Australian parliament.

Cameron Morse's trip

http://www.wellardgroup.com.au/images/wellard-38--iegah.pdf

is one unbiased rural journalists account of what happens on live
sheep ships, just a couple of months old. If you question his
report, ring him up at the Countryman!

Compare that to animal libber websites, showing historical stuff
aboard boats which don't even exist anymore, whilst holding out
their hands for money, its fairly easy to establish who is credible.

Given that Benny claimed to live in WA in September and now claims
to live on the Gold Coast, clearly that source is not the most reliable
and is perhaps yet another figment of somebody's online
invention

Having read the article about Cameron Morse's journey on board the live transport ship I'm curious about a couple of things.
How old is this article,it's undated?
How un-biased can a farmer and stock agent's son be?
The accuracy of the vet checks concerns me as one check is as the sheep run off the truck and up the loading ramp onto the ship.
The Third Party vet had a team of how many qualified assistants to carry out his 57,000 vet checks?
Does the AQIS Officer also have a team of qualified helpers to carry out his checks?
This load of 57,000 sheep had 'loads of room' but what about when the ship is fully loaded with 71,500 sheep?
A vet and a stockman accompany these animals on their journey according to this article. Just two humans responsible for the care and welfare of 57,000 sheep?
Who is responsible for their welfare once they are unloaded?
What guidelines and standards apply to their welfare once they leave the ship?