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Multi-Culturalism the ongoing madness.

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BOAZ CJ Belly Foxy and ... all guys, hello. I am back again after a long break :)
I like to know your idea about multiculturalism. Do you think its possible to have only one culture instead of multi? how can we make it?
Posted by ALJAZEERA_OZ, Saturday, 8 December 2007 3:09:00 AM
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Kids are taking very dangerous weapons to school we should not allowe it?
Every one agree?
Good let us ban every religion!
Without it this thread would not need to exist would it?
Now can these things cut? are they truly a weapon? if so no way they should be in school.
A farmer on sale day is not able to have his pocket knife on his belt.
That knife is his every day tool box.
Multi culturism is many different things ,we benefit from it, post war refugees helped us in very many ways.
But I think the real concerns our sometimes bigoted posters share, even with me, is the refusal of some to in any way take on our culture too.
I question the current view that the idea is wrong, but not the view some migrants from some groups not all,are of little worth to this country.
In truth religion is the problem not culture.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 December 2007 5:08:09 AM
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Hmmmmmm..... interesting responses.

CJ.. believe it or not.. I'm warming to you :) hahaha.. now that should worry you mate... the thing is.. you expressed the issue well..and correctly. Its not about 'religion' its about law. The simple fact of the matter is.. all culture, and religion, must give way to Australian law. "No concealed weapons".

PERILOUS in the spirit of Surah 33:51 which allows Mohammad to throw out other verses referring to the 'equal/fair' treatment of his many wives, saying

51 You may defer any of them that you please, and you may receive any you please: and there is no blame on you if you invite one whom you had set aside.

Ok.. you are now in the doghouse..and CJ is allowed on the mat at the back porch :) he is closer and you are consigned to the 'outer limits'... why ? because you seem to be obsessed with the idea of me 'hating other religions'

"you will explain to the world how Muslims have to be violent towards Christians simply because a verse in their scripture says so."

My position is this. <<'ISLAM' calls for war against non Muslims in the interests of establishing the rule of Allah">> Now that is not exactly what you said. "Muslims" are a spectrum. Hard liners/Fundamentalists and 'cultural nominal' at the other end. What their faith calls for and what they do may not coincide. But the VALUE SYSTEM which underlies all of them... is outright dangerous as far as I'm concerned.

BOTHERSOME.... (with a nick like that you have to wear it :) like I have to wear 'BOZO') I'll just re-iterate... its notttt about 'how Sikhs regard their dagger religiously' its about "Australian law" mate.

ALJAZERA OZ..welcome back you colorful fellow :)
to respond to your question, I don't see it as aiming for a 'mono-culture' as in 'English' culture. But we should be aiming at a homogenous/well integrated, well assimilated 'Australian' culture which will be the end result of encouraging unity rather than diversity.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 8 December 2007 7:20:50 AM
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Oh what a tangled web we weave
when first we practice (multiculturalism)”

The kirpan issue is not a response/backlash to Howard’s chaplains,
it’s a natural progression from our multiculturalism policies,
and it's to be found not only in our schools, but increasingly across all segments of our ‘multicultural’ society.

[PS :I am reminded of the ‘small knives’ the 9/11 hijackers are said to have used to commandeer their aircraft]
Posted by Horus, Saturday, 8 December 2007 8:27:02 AM
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Boaz,"mate" (please, no need to apologise, I've learnt enough about your basic decency to know you wouldn't respect my request re my tag), the law has decided that Sikhs children may bring kirpans to school. The law may be an ass, but it exists. Our conversation, therefore, revolves around its ramifications.

I like your thinking CJ, and Robert, but I dunno. Given we apparently haven't evolved out of religion yet, given we have to have it, I really don't have a problem with religious paraphenalia at school, as long as it doesn't form part of any actual tuition.

Horus wrote: "PS :I am reminded of the ‘small knives’ the 9/11 hijackers are said to have used to commandeer their aircraft"
Really? Is it the completely different religion or the completely different situation that's reminding you? Or is it that you associate Sikhs and Muslims cause they're both darkies? I, by the way, am reminded of the butter knife you used on your crumpet this morning.

Scotty, you're cute. Single?
Posted by botheration, Saturday, 8 December 2007 10:38:05 AM
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Dear Botheration,

My goodness ...
I didn't know you were into 'machete' armoured children, and pig-hunts - with dogs? And you think that's - cute?

O.K. now to be serious... I agree that to allow children to carry any sort of sharp objects to school is asking for trouble. Teachers have enough on their hands - without having this extra problem thrust upon them.

I'm also against allowing children to wear what they want (or what their parents may want them to wear) to public
schools.

There should be a dress code on what's acceptable. So that no
child is made to feel 'different.'

Children have enough pressure at school - without the added burden of being singled out because of their 'difference.' The schools should make the rules of what they will and won't accept. And parents can either choose to accept the school's rules, or send their children
elsewhere.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 8 December 2007 1:27:14 PM
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