Frank, I was just thinking back over your posts and wondered what you meant by 'You assert X to be the case and then, when compelling evidence shows X not to be the case, you assert Y to be the case.
Then, when compelling evidence shows Y not to be the case, you assert Z to be the case.' What concepts exactly does x, y and z represent?
Also, 'The Complete Book of Tartan' by Iain Zaczek and Charles Phillips is a lovely book but it can hardly be called an in-depth historical analysis of the origins of Scottish cultural traditions.' - is that a fact or your opinion. And 'That anyone could rate the Scottish Banner above the BBC beggars belief' - the Banner's writer on tartan matters is Matthew A C Newsome FSA Scot. (Society of Antiquaries of Scotland) GTS (Guild of Tartan Scholars). I didn't have that info at my fingertips when I replied to you. Maybe I should have waited longer. Surely you don't pooh pooh him as a source.

Bugsy, tell the truth. You are Ginx. Or were until your little alter ego spat the final dummy. Your mention of the BarL gives me something to think about. Bugsy was a PO there in the eighties. Are you really Brian Moran? Is that your homophone ringing? Better answer it, it might be CJ.

More lame argument from CJ. Avoid my points (latest post avoided was the one of Thursday, 20 December 2007 4:10:35 PM) and trot out your schoolyard taunts and insults.

Nah, Jack the Lad. I don't want to waste any more time.

Jack.... quite a colorful and interesting last post there mate :)

FRANK, CJ and BUGSY...

"The true racist nature of pro multiculturalists" is found in this very telling quote from Amin Saikal writing in the Age.

TOPIC "Nowwwww under Rudd we can deal positively with the Middle East"

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/under-rudd-australia-can-tackle-the-middle-east-positively/2007/12/20/1197740464572.html

<<and at the same time to bring Saudi Arabia and its Arab partners on board by agreeing to maintain Iraq's historical identity as Arab and to enlist the co-operation of Turkey by ensuring that the Iraqi Kurds will have no more than limited autonomy.>>

KEY WORDS 'arab identity'

WOOPS.. was that a blatant 'racist' comment I saw...? yes.. it jolly well was.. "ARAB"....identity.

KURDS (Turkick racial stock) "No more than LIMITED Autonomy"...

OOoooh yes.. we must keep those pesky Kurds in their proper place..UNDER the "Arab" dominated government.

Never..never..NEVER be so silly people as to think that the cries for 'Multi-Culturalism' from migrants is anything other than a thinly disguised racist campaign.
When a non traditional newcomer to Australia speaks about 'fair go for migrants'...they are thinking of ONE group..'theirs'.

Like Amin Saikal... he is seeking to re-construct Australian foreign policy in 'ARAB' terms. When he thinks of Iraq..he thinks of an ARAB Iraq. The interests he is promoting.. are ARAB interests.

Sorry Ishmael... the Promise from God, was to Isaac...not you.

Our Identity....or "theirs".... if Arabs and Middle Eastern countries can have an 'Arab' identity, then Australia can have an Anglo/European' identity. And any Arab (or any other) who thinks to the contrary can kindly shove that idea sideways where it rather hurts :)

BOAZ: "Never..never..NEVER be so silly people as to think that the cries for 'Multi-Culturalism' from migrants is anything other than a thinly disguised racist campaign."

Old tactic #1- if you want to express racist sentiments, accuse the other side of being racist.

Old tactic #2 - lump them all in together ("migrants") then attack THEM for lumping them all in together.

Old tactic #3 - use a single item to try to discredit an entire social philosophy ("multiculturalism"). He used the same tactic with kirpans.

Mr BOAZ needs that course in clear thinking and logic. Perhaps someone will put a voucher in his Xmas stocking.

Well that's a nice piece of Christian "peace on earth and good will to all men" from Boazy, who has displayed his ingrained racism yet again in his last post.

There is nothing "racial" about "Arab identity" - it is entirely a cultural phenomenon. Arabs are people who speak Arabic and identify as ethnically Arabic.

On the other hand, a notion such as "Turkick racial stock" is intrinsically racist, since it assumes that there are "racial stocks" from which people derive their primordial identity.

When Boazy and others of his ilk slip into classically racist language in discussions about culture, they give themselves away.

yes, EVERYONE's a racist except me and my chocolate labrador Dusty. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.