Palimsest
Thats is a hoot! At least you has a good sense of humour. Guess you have to be a idiot according to Morgan to appreciate it.

Belly its ok you can come out now. Gee a union dog with freedom. Thats different- "just kidding."

I heard you lost your old mate through the office and I felt really sad.
Maybe oneday we can meet up and I can introduce Mohamed you new dog.

I hope hes not racist is it because Mohamed is a very friendly puppy but tends to be a bit sensitive. Maybe its the name because people stare at him when I introduce him[ smile Belly ]

I wont bring him to visit you get because as puppies do he does tend to piddle all over the place.

I hear thats a forbidden sin in some parts of the world.

Lucky hes in Australia otherwise he would be sentenced to a life of hell fire= Whatever that means.

Maybe its life living next door to Morgan.
ha ha ha
Despite what Morgan who is clealy not an Aussie says the culture difference is TOO much.
If you dnt like Dgs Mate your never going to be Aussie!

Morgan you dont seem to mind my kids having to change their ways in their own country and their own school so we both know why.

To Answer the question about the flyers to Q and A.
The flyers disclose that its a given it would turn most off a party supporting the Mosques.
That discloses a much bigger problem in Australia.
It discloses that neither side of Government allowed the public to vote on issues that really concern THEM.
Thats grossley unfair!
The Australian public SHOULD be able to vote on this Muslim migration issue.
Thats what I think of the flyers.
The Government WONT allow the Australian Public to say how they feel.
Thats wrong!

Belly,

I agree whole heartedly. The ignorant mob of Sudanese protesters were unlikely to have had any more than a passing education, which would mostly have consisted of learning to recite the Koran in Arabic. These people are easily manipulated by their religious leaders into a bloodthirsty mob.

To elevate this form of Islam to a moral equivalence of our western way of life is obscene. Yet this is what the multiculturalists ask of us. We are not a static culture and we have learned a great many things from previous generations of migrants. But I believe there is an undeniable clash between fundamentalist Islam and western democracy. The multiculturalists would prefer we swept that under the carpet since it doesn’t fit their dogma. But just look at the problems faced by countries with large Muslim populations. France is coming to see, far too late of course, that the unbridled migration, particularly on multicultural terms, of Muslims into a western democracy is highly problematical. The British aren’t far behind.

Of course the usual suspects will accuse me of racism, which is tired and old and not very imaginative. I believe that we CAN absorb Muslim immigration to Australia successfully as long as it is on our terms. Those terms need to be

1) Everyone must make a commitment to learn English. That will break down some of the barriers
2) Where there is a conflict between Islamic values and western values, they must choose the western values every time

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For me it is only courtesy that if you are a visitor in someone’s home, you abide by their customs. No one is forcing migrants to come to Australia and if they want to remain rigidly Islamic surely they would be better of somewhere that welcomes this. I believe many Muslims would still come to Australia on those terms, the problem is the multiculturalists who insist on telling migrants that they needn’t change their behaviour at all when they migrate here. I am not against Muslim immigration, just the way that it is implemented at the moment. But as you have made clear, I am not free to say this without fear of repercussions.

Foxy,

Where does the right to equality of outcome come from? The right to be free to do whatever you wish, as long as your aren’t hurting someone else is fairly easy for most people to understand. The right to have the same wealth, status or success as the next person regardless of your effort or productivity is far less so. I would go so far as to say it is counter-intuitive

Your suggestion that the citizens of soviet style democracies felt they were free is bizarre and frankly a little insulting. The soviets had to build huge walls with armed guards just to keep their citizens in. I suppose those east germans who took to that wall with sledge hammers were searching for LESS freedom? The massive paramilitary and intelligence agencies of the soviet bloc were employed to spy on and punish their own people. It has been suggested that up to one in four Russians were engaged in observing and reporting on the behaviour of their countrymen. That’s how much the people loved their gov’t. In fact the people were so free that they weren’t even allowed to decide who their leaders were.

Give us a break.

Dear Paul,

I apologise if I gave you the wrong impression about my views concerning the Soviet Union. I am fully aware of the atrocities of that particular regime. My family ran from that regime - and many of our family members were deported to Siberia where they perished.
Dad's brother was tortured to death. I was talking merely in theoretical terms - so kindly don't preach to me - about a topic that I know full well - from my family's experience. Again, if I gave you the wrong impression, I stand corrected - I should have given you better clarification.

The thought that if we find fault with some from another race or religion we are racist is the reason for my thread it just is not true.
Some blindly fail to notice the crowd hate filled and calling for murder in Sudan.
Yet they will quietly put some of us in the bin as racists, yes I would rather not share my life or country with the worst of Islam.
Yet I understand it is not all from that group .
I however note they as a group are much more loyal to others from that group than we are, once it was not true now it is.
That loyalty is often miss placed, right or wrong not coming into the discussion he/she is my brother is enough to support even crime.
I do grin at your posts my dog loving friend, once do you understand unions fought for human rights as much if not more than any section of the community?
After the Tsunami unionist went to rebuild Asian country's mass income loss was worth it to help , let me tell you one small thing .
A unionist can be the girl on the check out the bloke who pumps fuel the fireman or ambo even the police officer.
Some union bosses are good honest people, a few are idiots one has a picture of a good communist one his shirts, a dead one!
Sky my mini foxy is at my feet she says she is a German Shepard but I think she lies a bit.

Belly
Well my dog Mohamed said to say hello to Sky.
My dog lies a bit too. He has the best excuse Belly. He tells me its a culture thing and he was trained that way to bring down the West.
'smile'
He has other strange habits to. I have to wash his feet before I wash his face- yuk
Dirty little bugger.
Hey Belly- Could you help Mohamed start up a Dog union?
He reckons some of the other dogs around here are racist.

Paul
Fantasic post and I hope you never stop posting your sensible comments.
Maybe you should throw your hat in next election time please?
We need more Pauls in Australia.