That's it Gibo, I'm outa here. No wonder we have so many problems on this planet ... extremists from all sides and never the twain shall meet.

Ponder this ... How would Jesus (God or the Holy Spirit) deal with your concerns?

It's sad really, people like Gibo turn people away from what is basically a good philosophy.

Give Gibo and his ilk a planet with Bin Laden's mob and they can destroy it together ... just don't do it here.

TurnRightThenLeft, just in case you missed it the site is a satirical spoof of some sections of the church, not an actual church site. It's just when you get used to views like Gibo's it looks to be too mild to be satire.

A clever spoof which might have helped those in the habit of pondering and reflecting think about where some of their fundamentalism leads but a message that seems to mostly fall on deaf ears.

The Wikipedia entry is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church

Some of the opposition sites seem a bit like spoof's as well but I suspect that they are real.

One of the most obvious anti Landover sites
http://objectiveministries.org/shutdown/

and for the possibility that the shutdown site is not real http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml9124.htm

R0bert

Ah yes, I probably should have given the site more than a cursory glance... though the line between satirical fundamentalism and plain old fundamentalist fundamentalism is getting rather thin these days.

I must say, their apocalyptic rantings have succeeded in persuading me of one thing - I used to be tolerant of everyone's beliefs.
Now, there's a certain level of fundamentalist nutbaggery where I simply have to draw the line.

I know you guys think Im strange. But not so.
The world Im from is a solid christian world.
We read or listen to Gods Word mostly each day. We pray for just about everyone we can think of. We fellowship each week maybe two, three times. We witness about what Jesus did on the Cross and about his Resurrection. Visions are common. Dreams are common. All about the future; and different aspects of peoples lives. Prophecy is common in christian churhes. We all know about demon powers. Many of us have seen them and done warfare against them. Its an ordinary committed christians life. Nothing special once you make that committment to Jesus as Lord and Saviour. The Holy Spirit is our Guide. We do what He wants where we can. My knowledge of UFO's and their possible manufacture by men on earth comes only from Stan Deyos The Cosmic Conspiracy. Didnt we drift from the original subject? PS: Christianity is not a philosophy? Its living in the Presence of a real Spirit Lord, Jesus. Can you dig it? A real Lord Who has His Spirit in us.
For an asian communist army to try and take us, which they will try one day (the Bible is clear about a massive asian army in asia at least...Revelation 9:16 and 16:12) they must have agents here...and that points to communism still quietly alive in places of power and authority in Australian politics. Little red helpers. One might suggest. See also General Discussion: Chen Younglin: man for any year.

Okay Gibo, enough already... you're really Chas Licciardello... aren't you?

Rationing of water, telling people how much they can use, when they can use it and how they can use it, is a communist principle.