I can rest easy now, knowing that Gibo's on the case. Go get 'em Gibo!

Sigh. Time to make a few things clear for the 'communism is evil' simpletons.

(Oh, and gibo, who cares what came first? if you're in favour of wealth redistribution via means other than the market, you're a socialist. I don't give a damn about chicken or egg arguments - if it's round and hard it's an egg, if it clucks, it's a chicken damnit).

Any economic (or religious for that matter) system in a pure form, will ultimately result in catastrophe.

Communism was essentially an attempt by the government to control the market. We know that the minutae of supply and demand are far too complex for any government to handle.
There's also the fact that whilst the majority of communism proponents were idealists who believed it would be for the good of the workers, ultimately, it was a system that was easily hijacked.

Communism itself wasn't evil - just easily abused and ultimately a naive attempt at sharing resources equitably among the people.

That being said - when Karl Marx diagnosed capitalism as having some glaring flaws, he was, for the most part, spot on. His solution however, was wrong, as were some of his theories, but I'll get to that.

Marx's central conundrum was that wealth would flow to fewer and fewer hands. There was also the issue that in the interests of competition, the wage of the working man would be continually eroded.

Neo conservatives dismiss the wealth accumulation argument via the trickle down effect, pointing to the success of capitalist economies and the standard of living enjoyed even by their lower classes.

What they ignore is the continual reliance upon growth, and the fact that capitalism still requires government intervention in numerous instances, duopolies such as the recent Amcor case providing a shining example - any government interference in the economy is ultimately a form of socialism to an extent.

I'd continue... but I fear that for fundamentalists such as Gibo, everything has to be black and white, good or evil, for god or against... so I suspect I'd be wasting my time...

TRTL, Yep! But hey, give credit where credit is due … Gibo started this post with a seemingly superficial straight forward question, fishing no doubt.

However, it transmuted to religious doctrinaire along the way. If it wasn’t for the biblionics, I would engage because Gibo certainly needs help and compassion for the state of mind he is in.

TRTL, good advice. I think we are knocking our heads against a brick wall, but sometimes I just cant help myself.

Gibo, no doubt there are some people in politics that hold semi-communistic beliefs. These people also exist outside politics. Try googling the communist party of australia - they have a website. Whether they are trying to take over Australian politics is another question altogether. Our democracy will help weed that out though, as I think most of our society ultimately sways more towards capitalism.

If the CPA are colluding with China though to set up a communist regime in Oz, the "invaders" must be Indonesia (otherwise if it were China, then by your logic they would control the whole of Australia rather than just the north). You're getting lots of answers to your questions today!

BTW, much as I dislike secretive groups, the Masons arent demon worshipers. They simply refer to the Divine Spirit, or such name, so as to not require non-Christian members to refer specifically to God. The group formally recognise a divine universal power, and base much of their stories and history on the bible. Grab a book about them and have a read. Its quite interesting.

Dear Gibo,

Mankind has always been in the middle of a struggle. All we can hope,
however, if for leadership at home and abroad that will inspire us to look for the best in ourselves and in others. summoning our capacity to care for one another in ways that cannot fully be explained by self-interest, logic, or science.

Every individual counts. If we truly accept and act on it, we will have the basis for unity across every border. We will take and hold the high ground against terrorists, dictators, tyrants, and bigots.
We will gain from the contributions of all people; and we will defend and enrich liberty rather than merely consume it.

In so doing, we may hope to inch our way over time not toward a glistening and exclusive church/temple on a hill, but toward a globe on which might and right are close companions and where dignity and freedom are shared by all.

I like being a fundamentalist TRTL. Its secure. I have Gods Word so I dont need to ponder. Thanks for your contributions though.
I missed the Berlin Wall going down Q&A and I wasnt able to keep up with the fall of communism here in Australia.
As with most christians sooner or later we get around to the Man Who Was On The Cross for each one of us...its The Holy Spirits Prescence. We cant help it.
Thanks too Country Gal. I do know about the Masons. Jack the Ripper: the Final Solution by Stephen Knight is an interesting book. At the upper levels of the Masons they worship a creature called Ya bul on and from then on its pure satanism. This Ive been taught with plenty of eye witness testimonies so I know its true. For years Ive been into anti-witchcraft and anti-occult writings. I know whats going on with "the dark ones".
My understanding of the invader is that it will be China, but God stops them at a certain point (His Great Compassion dear friends) and they do not take all of Australia.
That sounds good too Foxy. I think the future is set though. We can read about it in John's Revelation. Its a bit heavy so you might read Luke chapter 21 first as a gentler lead-in to the final book of the Holy Bible. 2 timothy 3 is also interesting.
I guess, Jack the Lad, if theres a new communism in Russia coming through the back door it will be here too before the sun sets on the damn thing as Jesus Enters through the front door at His Second Coming.