To say that Jesus was the original communist is incorrect and touches His Deity and is blasphemous to committed christians.
It puts communism as being the original faith, not Christianity.
We need... people please pay attention...to get things on the right timeline.
First...is God and Adam and Eve in the garden at Eden...then comes the satan as the serpent with his temptations, then the fall happens...a Redeemer is promised as long as Adam and Eve look towards His Coming. Bible history and all of earths history has begun (no evolution is this genuine truth). The Flood, then the tower of Babel, then Abraham, then the Tribes in the desert, then the Law (all of todays law begins here at Mount Sinai) then the Redeemer out of the Abrahamic line...now we see Christ Crucified and Resurrected...now people who put their faith in Jesus (invite Him in) begin to get born again...then everything else in the whole world, after all of this. Christ was first...rotten communism 1900 or so years later second. Jesus first! then fallen man concepts and beliefs (fired up by satan and his lies) second. Those civilisations that had worship before Christ, have gone. Those civilisations that came after Jesus were counterfeits. Thats the timeline. Communism is one of satans counterfeits of the original "God Plan" for mankind, Who is Jesus. You will grab all of this soon as you see the endtimes click into place with the antichrist stepping out onto the world stage (Revelation 13:16-18/14:9-11)

Dear Gibo,

Does Communism still exist today? I suppose it depends what you mean by 'Communism' because - it varies from country to country. In Eastern Europe - it officially collapsed in the 1990s. Unofficially,
'Same bloke, different hat.'

In Australia, the party was banned years ago ... but private beliefs,
well - everyone is entitled to those. I believe that our political ideologies should not allow us to penalize, coerce, or abuse those who believe differently. I don't argue that those sharing my particular understanding of the universe are more worthy than others.
If we acknowledge our common humanity, it becomes more difficult for us to demonize and destroy each other. It's far easier to find principled compromise with one of 'us' than one of 'them.'

Gibo, instead of getting your nose all out of joint, go back and read what I wrote about the difference between the communist ideaology and the communist political regimes. In particular read the bit about why Jesus showed communist ideals. And TRY to pay a little attention to the world around you.

With regards to the Bible being God's Word, you need to recognise that even IF the scripture itself was written by those possessed with the Holy Spirit, it has been heavily edited since. Mostly by that rather corrupted institution, the Catholic Church. Most of it too is historical description, rather than divine guidance, hence it was written by men and described things as they were best able to understand it at the time.

Gibo, I am now thinking you stay under the bed.

You are afraid of communism as others are afraid of neo-conservatism (there are fundamentalist extremists on both the left and the right). It makes sense that somewhere in between there is a balance. I would posit that this is where Rudd (as a Christian) is coming from - to capture the rational thinkers of the community, notwithstanding they may not realise it.

Gibo, some politicians sour the genuine precepts of political ideology, as do some church leaders sour religious philosophy. Each exacerbates the problems we have in the world today through fear, power and control.

The world's problems can only be solved through respect for each other. Why? Because unless we are prepared to respect each other, we will always have conflict and wars.

When Foxy wrote 'Same bloke, different hat.' it reminded me of how Vladimir Putin came to power. He was ex KGB and used the two Chechen wars (started because of bombings across Russia by the secutiry forces and blamed on the Chechens) to propel himself into the Kremlin.

The one chance Russia had for democracy was with Boris Yeltsin. The security forces discredited him and made him look a fool. The West failed to support him as a worthy ally.

So now Russia has a new form of Communism through the back door.

What I really wanted to know CountryGal was "is communism still there in Australian politics quietly working away at some goal or other", maybe in hand with China (theyve got enough spies out here to fill the banqueting hall at federal parliament house several times over. God bless you and Protect you Chen Yonglin for being such a brave man!).
I didnt have a clear picture.
I wasnt sure it was as dead as we believe. In pastor Jack Burrells book WHAT WILL BECOME OF AUSTRALIA 1975 we see Jack getting a vision, from The Lord, of an invader in the land and when its all over and done we see the invader in the top half of the country and a communist-style government in the south. I believe in Jacks vision (I cant get away from it because I really believe that Jack got it from The Holy Spirit as do many other christians)..thus my concern re: communism still not being dead. I really think its alive behind closed doors doing its sinister little thing like the Masons and their demon worship. I wont rest peacefully Q&A until I know.