Thats sad that Sara Henderson died..she did it tough way out there.

I think SS that there wouldnt be any need to accurately measure exact amounts of sedative if the animal were to be destroyed anyway, the aim would be to bring down the animal humanely and then destroy it..the expense side of it, if that were a factor,would as you say to find a generic alternative.

I also do see your point about castration having ,in some cases, painful after effects especially if infection set in, but I guess sterile equipment would no doubt be used having said that.

Mulesing is a particularly nasty practice and I know for a fact that from what I witnessed in my time on sheep stations as a kid, that that would indeed be painful..

Mulesing is a very nasty practice taurus29..it leaves sheep in quite severe pain...wounds left open and some quite deep..there would, as you say have to be pain..no 2 ways about it.

I also notice that sheep give no obvious outward indicators of the pain they feel..not that the average punter would pick up on anyway.

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Thanks Benny I see your point. If they can start doing that now and multiply it its a start to improving animal welfare.
Do you have any real idea how how it might take to set these places up again.?
How many are they going to open. Do you know. ?
Its certainly great news.
Thanks for letting us know. I will do a Google search and see if there is any more in the press about it.

Hi all,

Here is a link that will give some insight into pain indicators under a controlled lab environment....http://www.research.neu.edu/policies_forms/documents/paindistress.pdf.

interesting.

Id just like to recount a practice that I as a shooter some years ago saw and wondered about..I went out with a mate , he was also a shooter..at that time and it was generally talked about the practice of using cyanide on foxes and roos..more foxes though.

The idea was to cut down the sheer workload of being up all night.

The theory was(and was put into practice) to make wax shell from candle wax,melted,dip in the end of a steel and let the wax go hard,slide it off and you had a shell..into that shell you poured powdered cyanide..seal the top with animal fat or wax..put them in a box in the truck..go out shoot a roo, drag a trail and then lay these baits along it,up and back as far as you wanted really.Go back to camp for an early night.

In the morning go over your trail and pick up dead foxes..some foxes were paralysed but not dead...this was an easy awy to go but had its drawbacks..skins were compromised though and it was highly dangerous.

I often wondered if cyanide poisoning was painful if it went wrong as it sometimes did ..these foxes looked groggy but that was about it.

Any info?