WTF?

Yes mhaze facts are important.

Even though Guyana is in South America it is not referred to as Latin American.

The whole point about Uruguay is that it lacks the resources of countries such as Venezuela and Guyana.

By pivoting away from fossil fuels the total cost of electricity production decreased by roughly half compared to fossil-fuel alternatives.

This is not the message that renewable energy alarmists to hear or acknowledge.

Why? - Because this is an example that works and was an economic response to a fossil fuel problem.

A fossil fuel problem resolved by using alterative energy sources - this is psychological kryptonite to the alarmists and denialists.

"many renewable energy alarmists here on OLO have the economic disaster myth playing on loop"

Myth? Like the massive electricity price increases, the loss of power dependent industry overseas and the 10 billion plus in annual subsidies paid to the wind and solar grifters?

Why did Indonesia built 20 coal fired power stations last year when wind and solar are cheaper and faster? Maybe coal is cheaper and wind and solar are a big con destroying the environment, farmland and the economy?

Ditch the grifters.

WTF?

Fester asks: "Why did Indonesia built 20 coal fired power stations last year when wind and solar are cheaper and faster?"

The answer is "Who knows?".

In a Science Direct article from June this year:
"Indonesia has announced a coal phase-out policy, aiming to gradually retire coal power plants by 2030 and replace the energy gap by expanding renewable energy sources".

But don't let the facts make you despondent Fester, Indonesia is considering nuclear energy as one possible arm of their energy future - along with a whole lot of newer technologies generally lumped under the heading of alternatives and/or renewables.

"Who knows?"

That about sums up your objectivity WTF. My concern with wind and solar relate to its high costs, long build time and huge land requirements.

As I've said before, I am swayed by evidence whereas you say what Albo tells you to say.

Ditch the wind and solar grifters. Indonesia is building coal power to provide cheap energy to the mineral processing industry fleeing Australia. So much for wind and solar being cheap.

"The whole point about Uruguay is that it lacks the resources of countries such as Venezuela and Guyana."

or countries such as Australia.

There is nothing Australia can learn from Uruguay's experience since the circumstances are utterly different.

But if your aim is to continue down the path of high electricity prices, then perhaps Uruguay is the way to go.

Meanwhile, despite the continued and age old promises from the renewable fetishists, electricity prices in Australia remain high and are going higher. Even perennial optimist (or political liar?) Bowen now seems reluctant to make promises that prices will fall which he knows he'll never be able to keep.

Oh, and the cherry on top. Despite all this hand-waving. Despite moving massive sums of money from the working and middle classes to the investor class that is pushing all this. Despite telling us we have to meet our obligations for the good of the planet/coral/koalas (insert your favourite thing to save/not save). Despite all this, the government now admits we won't meet our 2030 promises on emission reductions and won't come within cooee of meeting the 2035 targets. (The Greens, who we all know would never lie about this </sarc> say we won't come within a "country mile" of meeting the 2035 targets - although I suspect the Greens think a country mile is the distance between the EV charging station and their favourite latte cafe).

So all this pain, all this virtual signalling and we won't even do what we promised. But that's OK because at the moment almost no nation on earth will come within a "country mile" of fulfilling their promises either.

WTF?

It really is of no concern to me if Governments reach their energy targets on specific dates or not. They are moving relentlessly towards renewables all over the world and that is the point.

Even large population and resource rich countries such as Indonesia have set targets and are moving forward with renewables. Probably not a good example to try to devalue the success of low population resource poor Uruguay.

In the example I gave, the Uruguayan Government met their targets and that is what I am referencing. Any success seems a painful truth for some on this forum to accept.

The energy mix all around the world is changing whether the alarmists and denialist like it or not.