Wrong again mhaze,

I said that targets do not matter to me but they certainly matter to you.

My first post includes the quote: ""We didn’t start with climate targets. We started with the problem of cost and reliability. The environment was a positive side effect, not the reason".

I don't know how clearer that message could be.

Your attempt to deflect away from the topic by bleating on about targets is a complete nonsense - as per usual.

I understand that success in the renewable energy sphere causes you a degree of psychological and ideological pain.

We often see that when people's belief system is challenged by factual information.

"I said that targets do not matter to me but they certainly matter to you."

I'm sure you think that's relevant. You'd be wrong.

I get that you don't want to talk about targets now that its plain they can't be met. But that rather was my point. Which of course went over your head.

"I understand that success in the renewable energy sphere...."

Energy costs skyrocketing. Coal stations being kept open beyond their slated closure date. Emission targets being missed and the ignored. If you consider that success, I'd hate to see what your idea of failure looks like.

Anyway, as I said elsewhere, renewables have had their day and the world is starting to move on. I assume you'll eventually catch on.