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The Peronisation of Australia

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ttbn,

You didn’t just review Burshtein and Swan’s piece. You used their talking points to launch your own claims about a Marxist command economy, Peronism, and looming economic collapse.

That’s not neutral commentary, that’s endorsement.

Pointing out that you can’t defend those claims isn’t “criticising you for not defending their opinions,” it’s noting that you’ve walked away from your own position now that it’s been challenged.

If you truly were just a detached reviewer, you wouldn’t have added your own alarmism about “vile drones,” “state monopoly capitalism,” and “Big Brother.” Those were your words.

I’ve addressed every substantive point: Australia’s still a capitalist economy, Coalition governments also “picked winners,” Argentina’s crisis wasn’t caused by mild intervention, and the Medicare/NBN “money will run out” trope has been wrong for decades.

So far, your response has been to avoid all of that and throw insults. That’s deflection, not debate.

If having facts on my side earns a ‘marked card,’ I’ll take it. Just don’t expect it to magically defend the Peronism scare story you abandoned.
Posted by John Daysh, Sunday, 3 August 2025 10:31:10 AM
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In the future, I am not going to name my source just so some simpleton who has the source's name on a hate-list thinks that making disparaging remarks about the source is a substitute for expressing an opinion, for or against, on the subject matter. I will think carefully about starting a thread, too, if I think it will attract only nutjobs.

What the simpletons say about me - even when I’m just passing something on - is neither here nor there. I'm too old and experienced to be bothered by what a couple of thugs say.

I am certainly not going to argue the toss anymore with simpletons and nobodies, who are probably not allowed out of the backyard in their miserable real lives.

The reports of increasing mental illness in Australia is not hard to believe.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 3 August 2025 11:45:26 AM
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ttbn,

You started a thread quoting Burshtein and Swan, expanded on their arguments with your own claims about Marxism and Peronism, and called Labor a “vile lot.” That’s not “just passing something on,” that’s taking a position.

I challenged that position with facts and you’ve responded with nothing but personal abuse and now talk of not naming sources or starting threads because “nutjobs” might reply. That’s not debate, it’s retreat.

Insults about “simpletons,” “nobodies,” and mental illness won’t change that your alarmist narrative was dismantled and you couldn’t defend it. Walking away doesn’t make you right, it just makes it clear you had nothing else.
Posted by John Daysh, Sunday, 3 August 2025 12:34:49 PM
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Seeing that I'm attracting nutjobs only, I'll change the topic and announce that someone I am not going to name has asked if we should be electing judges following one of the idiot’s overturning of the NSW premier's and police NO to antisemites and Israel-haters closing Sydney Harbour Bridge for around 5 hours with hate and yelling.

And, yes, I have asked the same question many times, so feel free to implicate me along with my source.

When governments (sometimes) try to do the job they were elected to do, some unelected, activist judge steps in and stops them.

Free speech? Occupying public areas and preventing people from going about their lawful business is not speech.

These ratbag judges need to be held to account. We elect the idiots who appoint them: it doesn't work. We should elect the judges too.

If things go horribly wrong at this hatefest, the judge won't be held to account
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 3 August 2025 12:59:04 PM
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Some people insist that free speech is involved in this hatefest on the Bridge. But, hang on, the Palestinians in general are NOT advocates of free speech. Quite the opposite.

These dreadful people are intent only on creating obstruction; banging on about the same thing, week after week, deluded that if they keep it up long enough they will get their way.

People might be apathetic, vote carelessly and so on; but when they are personally put out, they tend to get very stroppy. The NSW government knows this. The NSW police know this. The stupid judge does not know this. Were she to be subjected to the choice of the people as per the NSW government, she might get it.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 3 August 2025 1:30:26 PM
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You would know all about hatefests titibean. It's all you've got ya sad senile old git. I've never seen anyone take an election loss so badly. Get over it loser. You lost fair and square. Got flogged actually. 94 seats fool 94 seats. The Australian public have spoken loud and clear against the rwnj agenda of denial, nuclear scam, snowflake whining and complaining and dumb culture wars. Just stfu and go towards the light boomer.
Posted by mikk, Sunday, 3 August 2025 1:36:44 PM
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