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The Peronisation of Australia

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mhaze,

I asked you to point to where I’d “invented” things. You came back with three terms I never presented as verbatim quotes, but as fair readings of your “Big Government, Big Business, Big Unions” narrative.

Saying “I didn’t use those exact words” doesn’t change the substance: warning about elites consolidating wealth and power is describing the same dynamic whether you call it centralisation, corporatist collusion, or market capture.

If your whole defence is semantics, you’ve still done nothing to disprove the reading. And now, having been pressed on it, your “not playing” just looks like you’re taking your ball and going home.

Stamping your feet and pouting won’t change any of that.
Posted by John Daysh, Saturday, 9 August 2025 4:26:10 PM
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You said I talked about creeping Marxism when not only had I not but I had specifically said it wasn't Marxism.

You just fabricate stuff and then hide behind the cowardly assertion that its a fair interpretation of what was said without bothering to show how that's so.

Either you lie or your comprehension skills need to be massively revised.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 10 August 2025 9:45:12 AM
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mhaze,

You keep pretending I claimed you used the words “creeping Marxism” when I clearly said it was a reading of your “Big Government, Big Business, Big Unions” framing. That’s not fabrication - it’s connecting the dots between your own descriptions and common political terminology for that dynamic.

If you think the reading is wrong, you can explain why, but just shouting “lie” isn’t an argument.

Right now you’re dodging the substance by fixating on labels, because it’s easier than addressing the interpretation head-on.

You can keep accusing me of lying all you like, but it only makes you look desperate.
Posted by John Daysh, Sunday, 10 August 2025 9:59:07 AM
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mhaze,

“A culture of dependency and entitlement has taken root in the population and political behaviour has become only too willing to accommodate and encourage it …..” (Centre for Independent Studies).

We have been made aware recently that 50% of Australians now rely on the government, whether employed by the government, or through pensions and other benefits.

Therefore:
. The private sector is shrinking
. Entrepreneurship is disappearing
. Government spending and debt is increasing

Australia is a welfare state. People are becoming slaves of the state. Only half of them now, but who knows what the future holds unless we get a government that knows what it is doing. Where/how would we get such a government is a good question. Dunno, is probably the answer, given the state of the country. My guess is that people will own nothing and be very unhappy. I should have moved on by the time it happens.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 5:42:54 PM
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ttbn, as we know you are on aged welfare, a government handout no less, part of that 50% you babble on about. Of course you can always give up your welfare addiction and start the fight back, but me thinks you're not about to do that any time soon. You're like that other Old Fart hypocrite who bangs on about national service for young Australians, but avoided it himself.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 7:55:42 PM
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